What would be your reaction?

[The Franchise]

The Chiefs are on the clock at #21 and Roger Goodell walks up to the podium.

The Kansas City Chiefs select Colin Kaepernick, QB, University of Nevada.

How do you react?



This thread is based off of the rumor that an AFC West team has CK as their #1 QB. Assuming that means its the Raiders, Broncos and Chiefs.

[kcbubb]

I think my record will show that I have been more accurate than all of you idiots who like pistol guys like CK.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Since you guys think that I am a tard why don't you look at my previous posts about who I have recommended that the chiefs get in years past at QB.

How about you pour sulfuric acid into your vagina and eat a bowl of broken glass?

**** you. You act like a dumbass and then tell us to look up your previous posts on here so we can be graced by your other idiot posts? How about you talk about football or get the **** out?

[RealSNR]

Another one of kcfindthevoyager's brilliant ideas:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=221434

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by SNR

No. I said this:

I haven't ever seen you make a legitimate football post on here. I'm not proclaiming myself a genius, but I had a point and I backed it up with points about how Kaepernick plays QB.

All you did was go on here and say, "I'm a ****ing dickless idiot and Kaepernick sucks." That's great and all, but why do you think he sucks? What about him sucks?

Picking CK at 21 is terrible. He is not worth the 21st pick. Not a good value. The team that takes CK needs to be a team that will run the wildcat or could put a pistol package in for him. That team could get immediate value for him. I don't see the chiefs doing that. If they would, he might be worth a second round pick. Really if Buffalo could move up from the third round to the late second, that would be ideal for CK. BC Gailey would install a pistol package for him. Not a good fit for the Chiefs.

When evaluating a draft pick you have to evaluate the risk and reward. CK is too risky to be worth a first round pick.

What makes him risky... Here's a few.

throwing motion.
pistol offense.
lack of legit competition.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by SNR

Another one of kcfindthevoyager's brilliant ideas:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=221434

Originally Posted by kcbubb

You do realize that I didn't write the article... right? KC Joyner did. Supposedly an espn insider. I have never really watched Morgan play. I was asking for opinions bc he is ranked in the top 10 by a few different "draft experts".

And supposedly, Morgan is projected to play outside in the 3-4.

I didn't write the article. I was asking about the guy bc I hadn't seen him play. I didn't endorse him like you did with CK.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I didn't write the article. I was asking about the guy bc I hadn't seen him play. I didn't endorse him like you did with CK.

The point you missed in all of this is that the question that was posed is "What would your reaction be?".

He wasn't endorsing the idea of selecting him at that spot, but, like many others, he'd actually feel pretty good about it, not because CK is first round value, but because the Chiefs actually drafted a QB with potential huge upside that might actually be a sign that Pioli questions Cassel's progress.

But he also realizes it's a huge risk.

[chiefscafan]

Hmm I would be excited because with Zorn there he can develop kaperneki. If cassel falters we have a backup plan.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Picking CK at 21 is terrible. He is not worth the 21st pick. Not a good value. The team that takes CK needs to be a team that will run the wildcat or could put a pistol package in for him. That team could get immediate value for him. I don't see the chiefs doing that. If they would, he might be worth a second round pick. Really if Buffalo could move up from the third round to the late second, that would be ideal for CK. BC Gailey would install a pistol package for him. Not a good fit for the Chiefs.

When evaluating a draft pick you have to evaluate the risk and reward. CK is too risky to be worth a first round pick.

What makes him risky... Here's a few.

throwing motion.
pistol offense.
lack of legit competition.

Says the ****ing moron who advocates trading Glenn Dorsey.

[DeezNutz]

Speechlessness.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by milkman

He wasn't endorsing the idea of selecting him at that spot,

He said he would like it you dick licker. He likes CK. And he likes CK at 21. Get over it.

And what are you his mother? Maybe you should change your name to milkmom and go breast feed him while you defend him.

[Reaper16]

I would be pretty speechless. I'd much rather go with Ponder if the Chiefs were to take a QB at #21.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

He said he would like it you dick licker. He likes CK. And he likes CK at 21. Get over it.

And what are you his mother? Maybe you should change your name to milkmom and go breast feed him while you defend him.

If I advocated the Chiefs taking CK at 21, I would have said so. As in, I would have mentioned in my NUMEROUS posts in this forum the past few months that I want Kaepernick in the first round.

I know that's difficult for you to understand the difference, so let me break it down for you slooooowly:

1. I think Kaepernick needs time on the bench working with the coaching staff. A lot of time. I threw out two full seasons in an earlier post. I think that's fair. He needs that time to correct that hitch in his throwing motion, which is otherwise pretty good.

2. In addition to the hitch, he comes from a pistol offense. However, taking snaps from under center will come with playbook study and practice snaps. Two years on the bench.

3. I think by that time it's possible that those two big hangups could be corrected. If they are, look out. He's going to be a ****ing star in this league.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE

4. I would be shocked if the Chiefs took him at all, let alone took him in the 1st round. However, if they do, I assume they would have a plan for him. It would probably involve (you guessed it) bench time

5. I would be shocked, but I would also be happy to see them finally care about the QB position. Rolling the dice like this is exactly what it takes to get a top-level QB to lead your team. THAT'S why I would like this pick.


Please tell me how I'm saying, "I HOPE THE CHIEFS TAKE KAEPERNICK!!" It's not. All my posts have talked about Hankerson, Carimi, Costonzo, Smith, Jordan, and even Ponder and Locker. Not once have I mentioned Kaepernick in the 1st round.

That being said, thanks for actually talking about Kaepernick instead of "OMG HE SUX!" Those criticisms you have of him are the same ones I harbor. I think they can be ironed out based on what I've seen of him on the football field.

[kcbubb]

Long story short, you would be happy with CK at 21.

Originally Posted by SNR

.... but I would also be happy...

Maybe not thrilled, but happy. That's fine. That's your opinion. Stand on it. Don't be a p***y and dance around it. You maybe right. He might turn out to be a great player.

No one really knows. This is the draft. It is a crap shoot. Even the best ones really mess it up. Belichek (please don't correct my spelling b/c I don't care) passed on Clay Matthews twice.

I don't agree with you on CK. I think picking him with #21 is a bad value because of the risk. I also don't think he fits our offense very well. The Chiefs are looking for a QB that can win the game from the pocket.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

The Chiefs are looking for a QB that can win the game from the pocket.

Ryan Mallett?

[The Franchise]

First off.....what I'm getting from all of this is that a majority of the people who voted "**** yeah!" would be happy because it showed that Pioli isn't satisfied with the QB position (starter or depth). It also would show that he had the balls to take a QB in the 1st round.....Cassel or no Cassel.

Second off.....anyone who starts a thread advocating that we trade Dorsey so that we can draft a #2 WR.....shouldn't be calling people reeruns. Seriously dude.....go **** yourself.