The Chiefs drafting (_____) would piss you off? - Page 5

Bewbies · 04-21-2011, 02:56 PM

Ok, King Carl steps up to the podium and announces our pick at 21.

"With the 21st pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, my bitches, the Kansas City Chiefs select (________________________)."

Who's the 1 guy that will cause your fist to go through your tv?

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-22-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I'd prefer we keep Asamoah at LT.

Now, now Sac doesn't really watch the games. If he did, he might have a bit of a clue. He's still butthurt his favorite player is on the Seahawks and he had to buy the ticket to watch him bend over every week.

DJ's left nut · 04-22-2011, 11:56 AM

Anyone Sacoshit wants us to draft would upset me, and I haven't even looked at his draft threads this season.

I just assume he's being an idiot still.

Saccopoo · 04-22-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I'm pretty sure Tyron Smith is the top rated tackle in this draft dumbass.

If you say so.

Two years at right tackle, and didn't want to work out with the other linemen at the Combine (other than the bench). He's this draft's high risk/high reward player. I'm sure he'll go high based on his wingspan and athleticism, but it's not like he's above and beyond the other top tackles in this draft from that perspective.

Smith:
6'5"
307 lbs.
29" vertical
9'1" broad jump
29 reps at 225
36 1/2" arms
Suspended for a game in 2009 because of academic issues

From NFL.com:
Overview:
Smith is one of the best prospects on the hoof in this class. Blessed with an ideal NFL frame and has the outstanding feet and athleticism necessary to be a starting left tackle. Does a great job staying in front of speed rushers, locks on and sustains, and can anchor against the bull rush. Shows solid power in the running game and is really productive out in space. Football IQ is lacking. Fails to find his target at times in the running games and is a tick slow recognizing blitzes. Smith could come off the board early in the first round due to his rare physical gifts.

Strengths:
Smith possesses ideal height and length combined with rare speed and mobility for an offensive tackle. Can sink his hips to counter the bull rush. Moves his feet really well to shadow quicker speed rushers. Very comfortable blocking in space pulling on the perimeter and getting to the second level. Has a mean streak.

Weaknesses:
Would benefit from adding more bulk to his frame. Does not have natural football instincts. Overall awareness is lacking. Can be baited by stunts and twists. Does not recognize the blitz as quickly as you'd like to see. Can be beat by speed-to-power pass rushing moves.

Castonzo:
6'7"
311 lbs.
29 1/2" vertical
8'9" broad jump
28 reps at 225
34 1/2" arms
Academic All American

Overview:
Castonzo has the potential to develop into a top left tackle capable of shutting down top speed rushers. Started his first game as a true freshman and didn't leave the field during his four years at BC. He has very good mobility. Masks his lack of strength, to a certain extent, with quickness and positioning. Would be a good fit in a zone-blocking scheme or on a club that loves the screen game. Will probably never be a favorable matchup when facing bigger, more powerful NFL defensive lineman. Still, Castonzo is a first rounder with a chance to be the first O-lineman taken.

Strengths:
Castonzo possesses ideal height for the tackle position and has great feet. A highly-productive and extremely durable performer with over 50 starts in his college career. Smart, tough player and a hard worker. Huge, long frame coupled with impressive mobility allows him to shut down speed rushers. Puts himself in good position while run blocking. Comfortable and productive in space.

Weaknesses:
Must improve his bulk and playing strength (both upper and lower body). Can be beat by a strong bull rush or violent pass rushing moves. Can get caught dipping his head in pass protection. Does not push people off the line of scrimmage in the running game.

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And no if I hated my life i'd become a Morman like you and soil my special underwear.

And that's the best you got? Insulting someone about their religious beliefs? (Even though I'm not a Mormon, so your idiotic response really doesn't have any relevance other than bringing to light your religious intolerance and hate.)

**BossChief** · 04-22-2011, 03:08 PM

Costanzo would piss me off as our first rounder.

He gets beat is pass protection by the same things Albert does (albeit Albert does so against NFL talent, both can be beat by speed rushers that have good strength...not many lts can stop that combination consistently) and isn't anywhere near as good as a run blocker. IMO Albert is a borderline elite run blocker while Costanzo gets NO push in the run game.

If it's not a huge upgrade to an adequate LT, what the point in spending a first there when we can significantly upgrade a need position elsewhere?

Give it up

Saccopoo · 04-23-2011, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Costanzo would piss me off as our first rounder.

He gets beat is pass protection by the same things Albert does (albeit Albert does so against NFL talent, both can be beat by speed rushers that have good strength...not many lts can stop that combination consistently) and isn't anywhere near as good as a run blocker. IMO Albert is a borderline elite run blocker while Costanzo gets NO push in the run game.

If it's not a huge upgrade to an adequate LT, what the point in spending a first there when we can significantly upgrade a need position elsewhere?

Give it up

Nope.

Albert is nowhere near elite as a run blocker. He's a lunger that gets completely lost at the second level. He really struggles to find a target on sweeps and end arounds, which is a real detriment to this particular running attack - at least with Charles.

Honestly, it's his run blocking that cheeses me off more than anything. He's a phone booth blocker that tries to punch his guy of base and gets lost once the play goes into space. His footwork sucks and he has absolutely no kick step whatsoever. The guy is a guard.

He also struggles with pass rushers that can stunt a quick inside move. He's okay with bull rushers.

Castonzo has very good footwork and is capable of dealing with speed rushers. He also adjusts extremely well to game time situations and will modify his blocking depending upon the guy he faces right then and there. He also plays nasty and goes past the whistle in finishing blocks. He seals the edge extremely well.

He does struggle against power rushers somewhat, but that's not that big of a deal in the zone system that Haley runs.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-23-2011, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zooks

The quality level is not the same. It'll take a fluke to find a player that will have a major impact at that late of a pick.

Another fortune teller.

I'm sure you forecasted losing to Cinci last year too, right?

The hilarious thing is you think the Chargers are sitting pretty just 3 spots ahead.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-23-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Just for the record, I agree with Zooks and think that we are in a bad spot at 21. I think we should either trade up and target Julio Jones if the Vikes want to trade down and get Mallett. Or I think we should trade down with someone like Buffalo and get an OLB like Reed.

You have soured milkmom.

For the record, no one gives a shit what you think.

**BossChief** · 04-23-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Nope.

Albert is nowhere near elite as a run blocker. He's a lunger that gets completely lost at the second level. He really struggles to find a target on sweeps and end arounds, which is a real detriment to this particular running attack - at least with Charles.

Honestly, it's his run blocking that cheeses me off more than anything. He's a phone booth blocker that tries to punch his guy of base and gets lost once the play goes into space. His footwork sucks and he has absolutely no kick step whatsoever. The guy is a guard.

He also struggles with pass rushers that can stunt a quick inside move. He's okay with bull rushers.

Castonzo has very good footwork and is capable of dealing with speed rushers. He also adjusts extremely well to game time situations and will modify his blocking depending upon the guy he faces right then and there. He also plays nasty and goes past the whistle in finishing blocks. He seals the edge extremely well.

He does struggle against power rushers somewhat, but that's not that big of a deal in the zone system that Haley runs.

Your takes continue to be comical.

We are the #1 rushing team in the NFL (going to the left side) since Albert has been our LT. That, to me, makes him borderline elite at worst and truly elite at best. I can dig up the source for that if you like as it has been posted here multiple times. Just more proof that you either:

a) dont watch the games

or

b) are so jaded while you watch them that you have no clue what you are watching.

Costanzo isnt a run blocker at all and we are a running team until Cassel shows the ability to change that (or someone else does, if given a chance) and at best he is a marginal upgrade as a pass blocker.

If Brandon Albert and Anthony Costanzo were in the same draft, Albert would almost assuredly be the one taken first.

He is such a good pass blocker...

Sure looks like he did a superb job of "sealing the edge" in that video...

wasnt that what you called it when Okung got pushed right into the quarterback last year?

Sealing the ****ing edge...gimme a break.

Dude lunged, extended himself and still got beat repeatedly by about every player he faced of similar ability to Quinn...that was just one of the games I saw him get dominated with my own eyes and knew there had to be a video of it floating around and low and behold...

**RealSNR** · 04-23-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

For the record, no one gives a shit what you think.

kcbubb is furiously working with his team to figure out an insulting play on words with your name. You're in trouble now.

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-23-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Your takes continue to be comical.

We are the #1 rushing team in the NFL (going to the left side) since Albert has been our LT. That, to me, makes him borderline elite at worst and truly elite at best. I can dig up the source for that if you like as it has been posted here multiple times. Just more proof that you either:

a) dont watch the games

or

b) are so jaded while you watch them that you have no clue what you are watching.

Costanzo isnt a run blocker at all and we are a running team until Cassel shows the ability to change that (or someone else does, if given a chance) and at best he is a marginal upgrade as a pass blocker.

If Brandon Albert and Anthony Costanzo were in the same draft, Albert would almost assuredly be the one taken first.

He is such a good pass blocker...

Sure looks like he did a superb job of "sealing the edge" in that video...

wasnt that what you called it when Okung got pushed right into the quarterback last year?

Sealing the ****ing edge...gimme a break.

Dude lunged, extended himself and still got beat repeatedly by about every player he faced of similar ability to Quinn...that was just one of the games I saw him get dominated with my own eyes and knew there had to be a video of it floating around and low and behold...

You, you, you Jim Rome wannabe meanie.

Chief Roundup · 04-23-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

Did you watch him play in college? He's the return of Jordan Black.

That means if you play him at his natural position he would be ok. We all hated Black playing LT.

Saccopoo · 04-23-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Your takes continue to be comical.

We are the #1 rushing team in the NFL (going to the left side) since Albert has been our LT. That, to me, makes him borderline elite at worst and truly elite at best.

...

I stopped reading there. If you truly think that Albert is an "elite" level NFL left tackle, you are a complete and utter moron.

If I were you, I would refrain from using your now trademarked catch phrase "you don't watch the games" because if you actually watch the Chief games and come away with the thought that Albert is "elite" then you don't have a ****ing clue about football and you come off as a hypocritical jerk off.

**Gadzooks** · 04-23-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Another fortune teller.

I'm sure you forecasted losing to Cinci last year too, right?

The hilarious thing is you think the Chargers are sitting pretty just 3 spots ahead.

Re: the Cincy comment.
I'm worried the Chargers are going to miss out on one of the premier 3-4 DEs at #18.
I'd like the Bolts to trade up to Miami's spot to get ahead of Jacksonville and NE but I don't believe Miami would want to sit behind NE and watch them take Ingram.

Bewbies · 04-23-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I stopped reading there. If you truly think that Albert is an "elite" level NFL left tackle, you are a complete and utter moron.

If I were you, I would refrain from using your now trademarked catch phrase "you don't watch the games" because if you actually watch the Chief games and come away with the thought that Albert is "elite" then you don't have a ****ing clue about football and you come off as a hypocritical jerk off.

Says the guy that told us all about how well Asamoah played LT...I freaking live this place!

**Bowser** · 04-23-2011, 02:19 PM

Albert's never going to be Willie Roaf when Roaf was in his prime, but I have no idea where Sac thinks he is utter garbage.

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that this debate is STILL going on. Albert is a solid left tackle. Not all world, but certainly not Jordan Black-ian.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1545912	Costanzo would piss me off as our first rounder. He gets beat is pass protection by the same things Albert does (albeit Albert does so against NFL talent, both can be beat by speed rushers that have good strength...not many lts can stop that combination consistently) and isn't anywhere near as good as a run blocker. IMO Albert is a borderline elite run blocker while Costanzo gets NO push in the run game. If it's not a huge upgrade to an adequate LT, what the point in spending a first there when we can significantly upgrade a need position elsewhere? Give it up __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-18384	Albert's never going to be Willie Roaf when Roaf was in his prime, but I have no idea where Sac thinks he is utter garbage. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that this debate is STILL going on. Albert is a solid left tackle. Not all world, but certainly not Jordan Black-ian.
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