Sac's Final 2011 NFL Draft Wish List

[Saccopoo]

1. Derek Sherrod, OT; Mississippi State: 6'5", 321 lbs.
- Big, athletic and intelligent. Experienced and played against top pass rushers/ends his entire career. Very intuitive and equally good in both the run and pass. Has all the intangibles and should play at a high level at either tackle spot.



2. Sam Acho, OLB/DE; Texas: 6'2", 259 lbs.
- An athletic and smart combo end who won nearly every leadership, academic and sportsmanship award there is in 2010 including the Campbell Trophy. Team captain. Had 9 sacks and led the nation with 5 fumble recoveries in 2010. Has very good change of direction as well as a good initial burst and size/strength to drive the point of attack. Has the potential to be a very effective 3-4 LOLB. This guy defines hard work, character and on-the-field production.




3. Jerrell Powe, NT; Ole Miss: 6'3", 335 lbs.
- Massive and strong, Powe was a Rebels team captain in 2010. Did not qualify academically his first two years of college because of an undiagnosed dyslexia situation, but he stuck with it and ended up playing all four years. A former high school Army All-American. Much better character and work ethic at the same size than a guy like Phil Taylor.




4. Vincent Brown, WR; San Diego State: 5'11", 187 lbs.
- With long arms and huge hands, Brown plays substantially bigger than his frame suggests. A classic possession type receiver that knows how to get open, make the hard catch and find the end zone. Had 1300+ yards and 10 touchdowns in 2010. Ran a 4.58 40 and posted a 36 inch vertical at his pro day.



5. Zane Taylor, C; Utah: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- First team all-conference as both player and academic. Team captain. Three year starter at center. Very strong (41 reps at 225 at his Pro Day), smart and experienced. Is very effective is standing up even the biggest nose tackles (watch his performance as a sophomore against Terrance Cody in the 2009 Fiesta Bowl - just annihilates the bigger Cody play after play). Excellent work ethic.



5. Ricky Stanzi, QB; Iowa: 6'4", 223 lbs.
- After several lackluster years, Stanzi had a very good senior season in 2010 setting a school single season record for passing efficiency. 25 TDs against 6 INTs in 2010 and went 26-9 as a starter. Excellent size and good leadership.



6. Darius Morris, OT; Temple: 6'4", 318 lbs.
- First team all-conference after starting all 12 games in 2010 at right tackle for the Owls (started 11 games at RT in 2009).



7. Robert Hughes, RB/FB; Notre Dame: 5'11", 240 lbs.
- Former High School All-American at running back, he has very good hands and elusiveness in the open field. Is also adapt at using his tree stump frame to smash through the line in short yardage situations. Really fits the Haley system in terms of a versatile fullback.

[BossChief]

Sac would draft John Tait over Ed Reed...what's the point discussing anything with someone possessing such a hard core misunderstanding of the big picture?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Did anyone say it was dumb? Don't be such a moron. (Sorry, you are probably a moron resulting from genetical deficiencies and you can't do anything about it other than just be a moron and it's mean to make fun of someone who is like that and can't do anything about it. If your mom drank a shit ton while she is pregnant, the results can hardly be considered your fault. You may just want to limit your participation in discussions and the like so your genetic predisposition towards stupidity doesn't show itself too much.)

The Berry pick was a good pick considering the Chiefs lack of depth and production from the position in 2009. However, safeties are usually considered support players and deemed to be not as high on the positional value scale as left tackles.

However, while Berry quickly established himself as a very good run defender, his pass defense is not good and he was responsible for giving up a number of touchdowns last season.



Put up or shut up. If you are going to criticize someone about their picks, then you should have the balls to make yours known. Otherwise, you come off as a disingenuous one who sucks the penis. And maybe that's just what you are.

I've supported Hali when many called him a 3rd end. Liked the McCluster, Moeaki, and Lewis picks when many didn't. Was against the T-Jack and Cassel moves like pretty much everyone else. I state my opinion, I'm just not a "bater". I'm not going to make a list of a bunch of dudes I've never watched more than a handfull of games on and pretend I'm an expert because I watch youtube highlight reels.

When someone says stupid crap like Bulaga and Opoooung over Berry and 15 TE's better than Moeaki, I'll be there to call them out on it.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I noticed. It began in 2004 with a rule change and greater emphasis on pass interference rule enforcement that favored the offense.

However, there is no way that a safety is more relevant than an offensive tackle in terms of positional value.



It was better, but still flawed. He even got burned in the Pro Bowl on pass coverage and gave up one to Gonzalez.

And I'm not saying it was a bad pick by any stretch. The Chiefs needed a safety (two) and got good ones in Berry and Lewis.

However, I would have rather have had Okung or Bulaga in the first and then use one of the second rounders we had last year on Nate Allen or TJ Ward rather than McCluster.

But Berry is a good guy and a solid player. And while I would have done it different, it was a good pick for the team.

We've had this discussion a hundred times.

Okung is not now, nor has he ever been, as good as you think he is.

Berry is going to be a top 3-top 5 safety, and will have a bigger impact on the defense than Okung on offense.

And Buluaga?

Holy shit.

You're a bigger idiot than I already imagined.

[the Talking Can]

Berry's pass defense got better all year...picking on him because got torched by some all stars in his first few games is dumb

his run defense is already incredible

the way he played against baltimore was flat out amazing for a rookie...he was one of the two or three best players on our team

he had one of the best rookie seasons ever for a safety

and neither Bulaga (jesus face palm christ) or Okung can sniff his jock

what kind of flaming dumbass would draft a john tait over a Troy Polamalu?

answer: saccofbats

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Berry's pass defense got better all year...picking on him because got torched by some all stars in his first few games is dumb

All sorts of posters on this board were killing Carr in '10, particularly during and after the Denver game when Mike Touchdown Brown ****ing shit himself, thus by extension soiling half the team.

Therefore, I'm not surprised to see people "concerned" about Berry, who will no doubt be a future Pro-Bowler, and likely an All-Pro.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

All sorts of posters on this board were killing Carr in '10, particularly during and after the Denver game when Mike Touchdown Brown ****ing shit himself, thus by extension soiling half the team.

Therefore, I'm not surprised to see people "concerned" about Berry, who will no doubt be a future Pro-Bowler, and likely an All-Pro.

He already started in the pro bowl (after everything was said and done)

Welcome to the future!!!

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I noticed. It began in 2004 with a rule change and greater emphasis on pass interference rule enforcement that favored the offense.

However, there is no way that a safety is more relevant than an offensive tackle in terms of positional value.



It was better, but still flawed. He even got burned in the Pro Bowl on pass coverage and gave up one to Gonzalez.

And I'm not saying it was a bad pick by any stretch. The Chiefs needed a safety (two) and got good ones in Berry and Lewis.

However, I would have rather have had Okung or Bulaga in the first and then use one of the second rounders we had last year on Nate Allen or TJ Ward rather than McCluster.

But Berry is a good guy and a solid player. And while I would have done it different, it was a good pick for the team.

Did you say pro bowl?
And t.g.?

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[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

He already started in the pro bowl (after everything was said and done)

Welcome to the future!!!

Thanks. . Admittedly, I had forgotten about his Pro-Bowl appearance. In my defense, I seem to vaguely remember Cassel going, too.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman

We've had this discussion a hundred times.

Okung is not now, nor has he ever been, as good as you think he is.

Berry is going to be a top 3-top 5 safety, and will have a bigger impact on the defense than Okung on offense.

And Buluaga?

Holy shit.

You're a bigger idiot than I already imagined.

I'm seriously questioning your ability to imagine anything. I don't think you have a creative, figurative bone in your body.

And, like I said, I would rather have Allen or Ward in the second along with Okung or Bulaga than Berry and McCluster (to go along with the stellar Chiefs OT duo of Albert and Richardson).

TJ Ward:
123 Tackles
2 Ints
10 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

Nate Allen:
48 tackles
2 Sacks
3 Ints
8 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fumbles

Eric Berry:
92 Tackles
2 Sacks
4 Ints
9 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

And you can add Earl Thomas to that list of rookie safeties that had very good years:

Earl Thomas
76 Tackles
5 Ints
7 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

,,,and next year, Morgan Burnett and Chad Jones, who had injuries their rookie years and didn't play, but should be contributors next season. And then you can add Taylor Mays as well.

Berry is going to have to work his ass off to be considered a top three safety in just his draft class, let alone a top three NFL safety.

So, yeah, I'd much rather have a competent offensive tackle along with a safety that mirrored Berry's production than Berry and McCluster (which means that Richardson and Albert are still our kick ass OT's).

[Reaper16]

I wish that Saccopoo weren't so Goddamned stupid. He has the makings of a good poster but he can't quite put it together. I mean, HOLY SHIT is his last post in this thread a crock of shit.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I wish that Saccopoo weren't so Goddamned stupid. He has the makings of a good poster but he can't quite put it together. I mean, HOLY SHIT is his last post in this thread a crock of shit.

Man, I know what you mean. Anyone who would question the Berry pick has got to be a complete idiot.

Okung/Bulaga and TJ Ward/Nate Allen

versus

Berry and McCluster?

That's crazy talk.

Especially considering that we still have Richardson and Albert as our starting tackles.

Awesome.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm seriously questioning your ability to imagine anything. I don't think you have a creative, figurative bone in your body.

And, like I said, I would rather have Allen or Ward in the second along with Okung or Bulaga than Berry and McCluster (to go along with the stellar Chiefs OT duo of Albert and Richardson).

TJ Ward:
123 Tackles
2 Ints
10 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

Nate Allen:
48 tackles
2 Sacks
3 Ints
8 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fumbles

Eric Berry:
92 Tackles
2 Sacks
4 Ints
9 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

And you can add Earl Thomas to that list of rookie safeties that had very good years:

Earl Thomas
76 Tackles
5 Ints
7 Passes Def.
1 Forced Fum.

,,,and next year, Morgan Burnett and Chad Jones, who had injuries their rookie years and didn't play, but should be contributors next season. And then you can add Taylor Mays as well.

Berry is going to have to work his ass off to be considered a top three safety in just his draft class, let alone a top three NFL safety.

So, yeah, I'd much rather have a competent offensive tackle along with a safety that mirrored Berry's production than Berry and McCluster (which means that Richardson and Albert are still our kick ass OT's).

unbelievable....you are one dumb piece of shit


i'm now convinced you don't even watch football games

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

unbelievable....you are one dumb piece of shit


i'm now convinced you don't even watch football games

He is a complete ****tard. And throwing McMidget in the post as well as validation that we should have drafted Okung is even more stupid.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Holy shit.

Get your panties in a knot over minutia in a comparison between two ****ing guys who started their careers at Florida as highly touted prep quarterbacks, who left the program amidst scholastic controversy and who went on to amass huge numbers against shitty DII/Juco competition!!!! What a stretch of a comparison!!!

Oh noes! One guy is 6'5", the other guy is 6'2"!!!!! One guy is a little more accurate than the other!!!! One guy had a higher completion rather versus the other!!!! They are nothing alike!!!!

****ing idiot.

I'm sorry if you got your tampon string wound in the wrong direction Mr. Cecil Newton. I never meant to say that Portis was exactly like your son. I simply inferred that if Portis had another year of eligibility that he might have made an impact at the D1 level. God forbid that I besmirched you son's name and lowered him to Portis' level.

You must come completely unglued when someone mentions that a porpoise and a dolphin are somewhat alike. Or if someone says magenta is a more of a shade of red then a shade of purple.

How does life live on a completely literal level?

One is potentially the #1 overall pick while the other likely will go undrafted, so they're pretty similar I guess.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

unbelievable....you are one dumb piece of shit


i'm now convinced you don't even watch football games

There is no way he does. Here are some "stats" from a safety that had one of the worst seasons I've ever seen. Mike Brown during his one year in KC had...

103 Tackles
2 Sacks
3 INTs

Sac was probably like "hell yeah, we got ourselves a kickass safety". "Look at those numbers!!!"