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Old 04-28-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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I recommend that you don't try this over KXTA, BTW.
I love how that "airport" was named.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:47 PM   #2
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I recommend that you don't try this over KXTA, BTW.
Well if you're bored contact the NACC "Nellis Control' on 119.35 or try Range "BlackJack' on 139.75 if you're trying to skirt the Box (R4808N) near the Lee sector. Or if you're really feeling froggy just fly straight in and see how it goes.
For the DM boneyard, traffic permitting you can get frequently get a low altitude clearance to delay around the Boneyard and helos may be given air taxi permission but I'd recommend contacting the 309th AMARG prior as they own the boneyard.
"NEVADA TEST AND TRAINING RANGE (NTTR) COMPLEX - Airspace composed of the Desert MOA, with overlying Air Traffic Control Assigned Airspace (ATCAA), Reveille North and South MOA and ATCAA, Restricted Areas R-4806 East/West, R-4809, and R-4807A/B. The Desert MOA is subdivided into Sally Corridor, Elgin, Caliente, and Coyote training areas. Restricted Areas R-4806 East/West, R-4809 and R-4807 A/B are joint use airspace and subdivided as follows: AlamoA, B, & C, Areas 61, 62B & C, 63, 64A, B, C, & D, 65N, 65S, 71N, 71S, 74A, 74B, 74C, 75E, 75W,76, 76A, Tolicha, Pahute A & B, ECE, ECW, ECS and Cactus EC. R-4808N and portions of R-4808S are non-joint use restricted areas under control of DOE."
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:48 PM   #3
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Well if you're bored contact the NACC "Nellis Control' on 119.35 or try Range "BlackJack' on 139.75 if you're trying to skirt the Box (R4808N) near the Lee sector. Or if you're really feeling froggy just fly straight in and see how it goes.
For the DM boneyard, traffic permitting you can get frequently get a low altitude clearance to delay around the Boneyard and helos may be given air taxi permission but I'd recommend contacting the 309th AMARG prior as they own the boneyard.
"NEVADA TEST AND TRAINING RANGE (NTTR) COMPLEX - Airspace composed of the Desert MOA, with overlying Air Traffic Control Assigned Airspace (ATCAA), Reveille North and South MOA and ATCAA, Restricted Areas R-4806 East/West, R-4809, and R-4807A/B. The Desert MOA is subdivided into Sally Corridor, Elgin, Caliente, and Coyote training areas. Restricted Areas R-4806 East/West, R-4809 and R-4807 A/B are joint use airspace and subdivided as follows: AlamoA, B, & C, Areas 61, 62B & C, 63, 64A, B, C, & D, 65N, 65S, 71N, 71S, 74A, 74B, 74C, 75E, 75W,76, 76A, Tolicha, Pahute A & B, ECE, ECW, ECS and Cactus EC. R-4808N and portions of R-4808S are non-joint use restricted areas under control of DOE."
What on Earth are you talking about?
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:54 PM   #4
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I'm kinda surprised that's not restricted airspace.
The USSR needs to be able to see them from orbit, treaties.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:35 AM   #5
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:36 AM   #6
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Those are awesome pictures.

To capture the massive, worthless piss-away of billions upon billions of tax payer dollars in a few succinct shots is fantastic.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:38 AM   #7
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Those are awesome pictures.

To capture the massive, worthless piss-away of billions upon billions of tax payer dollars in a few succinct shots is fantastic.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:40 AM   #8
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Those are awesome pictures.

To capture the massive, worthless piss-away of billions upon billions of tax payer dollars in a few succinct shots is fantastic.
Those worthless piss-away billions upon billions kept the Soviets from dominating the world.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:18 AM   #9
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:20 AM   #10
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Why is that funny? You do realize that these aircraft actually flew, right? They didn't go from the the factory to the boneyard.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:23 AM   #11
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Why is that funny? You do realize that these aircraft actually flew, right? They didn't go from the the factory to the boneyard.
I know they flew.

I also know that they didn't do jack shit in terms of anything other than costing US taxpayers a millionkazillionjillion dollars and flying around.

The funny part was the "they kept the Soviets from dominating the world" comment.
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Those are awesome pictures.

To capture the massive, worthless piss-away of billions upon billions of tax payer dollars in a few succinct shots is fantastic.
Those billions of dollars helped keep America on top, i'll never apologize for wanting us to remain the #1 power in the world... because if it isnt us, then who? and how will they use that power?

An extremely well funded military is the only way to assure this country never plays second fiddle to anyone.
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Crazy. Think of all that scrap material just sitting around.
They probably have to have roving guards just to keep the meth heads out.
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