Gosselin 2011 Mock 2.0 AND 3.0 JUST ADDED - Post #38

[Fumblerooski]

Based on Team Needs.




Gosselin's 2nd Mock Draft:

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
3. Buffalo: Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Cincinnati: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A
5. Arizona : A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
6. Cleveland : Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. San Francisco: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
8. Tennessee: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
9. Cowboys: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
10. Washington: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
11. Houston: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
12. Minnesota: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
13. Detroit: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal
14. St. Louis: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
15. Miami: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
16. Jacksonville: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
17. New England: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama
18. San Diego : Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
19. New York Giants: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
20. Tampa Bay: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
21. Kansas City: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
22. Indianapolis: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
23. Philadelphia: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
25. Seattle : Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
26. Baltimore: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
27. Atlanta: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
28. New England: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor
29. Chicago: Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
30. New York Jets: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
31. Pittsburgh : Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
32. Green Bay: James Carpenter, OT, Alabama

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

He had us taking Amobi Okoye a few years ago, so he's not always right though either...

And on the flip side he was also the first person to somehow pick up our interest in Tyson Jackson.

Either way, I don't think I've ever seen anybody with a 100% accurate draft. It's just the nature of the beast. Year-to-year rankings, though, Gosselin is among the best. He's able to get information that other people aren't.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I just ****ing gagged.

Don't put so much of Okungs dick in your mouth.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I would happy with Fairley and our biggest need is defensive tackle.

I think Denver knows how deep the DL class is this year and have two very high second round picks. Guys like Paea, Marvin Austin, Muhammad Wilkerson, Kenrick Ellis, Allen Bailey, and Phil Taylor could be there when we pick in the second round.

Why not pick the best LB in the draft when you have a good chance of getting some good DT's in the second round.

he isnt the best linebacker in the draft.

He is the best 3-4 OLB in the draft.

Can he cover?

can he hold the edge in run support?

Can he find ways to utilize his pass rushing skills (like that brutal first step) as a 4-3 backer?

Lots of questions if he is your guys' pick.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Why not pick the best LB in the draft when you have a good chance of getting some good DT's in the second round.

Because it's the 2nd pick, and that seems like a very, very high price to pay for a linebacker. Later in the round, maybe, but I think I'd rather have the best DT and a 2nd tier LB than the best LB and a 2nd tier DT. JMO of course. And we're talking about a 4-3 linebacker, which to me skews it even more in favor of the DT.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I just ****ing gagged.

If you think that line wouldn't be a top ten in the NFL line (within a short timeframe) there is nothing that can help you.

[Quesadilla Joe]

He is without a doubt the best 4-3 or 3-4 LB in this class. I don't think a single 4-3 LB other than Miller even has a first round grade.

He would have to do all of the things you mentioned in a 3-4 as well. He is a phenomenal player. He has the athleticism, ability, and instincts to thrive in any scheme.

Can he find ways to utilize his pass rushing skills (like that brutal first step) as a 4-3 backer?

He played DE in a 4-3 and had 17 sacks his junior season.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You do realize that this final mock is the one he makes based entirely on inside sources from the teams, right? He's not projecting where he thinks players should go, he's projecting where players appear to be falling based on what people actually involved with making the picks have told him.

His final mock is generally the most reliable out of anyone's anywhere because he has so many in's.

Yeah, I'm sure that he called up Scotty and Todd and said, hey, I got my mock coming out today and who you picking?

And they said, "Well, Rickster, because it's you and you've got all these in's, we'll give you our super secret first round info: it's Albert's twin brother Gabe who we'll be picking. Book it mother ****er, 'cause you are the draft bomb."

**** Gosselin. That mock is ****ing reeruned.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Because it's the 2nd pick, and that seems like a very, very high price to pay for a linebacker. Later in the round, maybe, but I think I'd rather have the best DT and a 2nd tier LB than the best LB and a 2nd tier DT. JMO of course. And we're talking about a 4-3 linebacker, which to me skews it even more in favor of the DT.

Number 2 would be too high for a normal SAM LB but Von Miller can be a double digit sack guy in the NFL as well.

Plus this draft doesn't have a whole lot of quality 4-3 LB's to choose from. I think Martez Wilson is one of the only 4-3 LB's who has a second round grade.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is without a doubt the best 4-3 or 3-4 LB in this class. I don't think a single 4-3 LB other than Miller even has a first round grade.

He would have to do all of the things you mentioned in a 3-4 as well. He is a phenomenal player. He has the athleticism, ability, and instincts to thrive in any scheme.


He played DE in a 4-3 and had 17 sacks his junior season.

I know you are already falling in love with the pick (even before its made) and thats cool.

Kids love ice cream.

If he is your pick and both he and Elvis are played at end, you will have the leagues worst run defense.

Write that down.

[salame]

Originally Posted by BossChief

the HOF

haha

I drafted him top of the second round in the CP Mock for the Browns and I think thats about where he comes off the board.

He could go higher though and surprise some because he is "scheme diverse" and therefore has value to all teams.

It sucks that we dont really need a DE because I think he or Clayborn would be slamdunks as 5techs at 21...especially Clayborn.

I actually like Ballard better for a 3-4

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If you think that line wouldn't be a top ten in the NFL line (within a short timeframe) there is nothing that can help you.

Your and idiot.

Two tackles that can't handle the speed rush for shit with shitty footwork, a left guard who can't hold the point of attack and an unknown rookie center?

Yeah, best line ever. In Canada.

[salame]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Number 2 would be too high for a normaly SAM LB but Von Miller can be a double digit sack guy in the NFL as well.

Plus this draft doesn't have a whole lot of quality 4-3 LB's to choose from. I think Martez Wilson is one of the only 4-3 LB's who has a second round grade.

Wilson is a bad mother****er I thought he would go in the end of the 1st

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I know you are already falling in love with the pick (even before its made) and thats cool.

Kids love ice cream.

If he is your pick and both he and Elvis are played at end, you will have the leagues worst run defense.

Write that down.

He will only be playing end on 3rd down. Our DE's on 1st and 2nd down would be Doom and Robert Ayers (who is a fantastic run defender btw).

Miller will be playing SAM on 1st and 2nd down and will have his hand in the dirt on passing downs.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Your and idiot.

Two tackles that can't handle the speed rush for shit with shitty footwork, a left guard who can't hold the point of attack and an unknown rookie center?

Yeah, best line ever. In Canada.

there is no other response but...

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by salame

Wilson is a bad mother****er I thought he would go in the end of the 1st

He is one of the guys I would want Denver to draft in the second round if we end up picking a DT in the first.