Chiefs DE Allen Bailey Miami - Page 10

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2011, 07:49 PM

COUNTRY STRONG!

Height: 6-3
Weight: 285
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67

Notes: Also played basketball as a prep. Highly recruited linebacker-fullback who played just four games as a senior because of a stress fracture in his back. Grew up in the village of Hog Hammock on Sapelo Island, a tiny (approximately 100 residents), remote location 15 miles off the coast of Georgia. Bailey commuted 45 minutes — by ferry, then by bus — to attend school. Spent nights sleeping at a teammate’s house on the mainland during the season. Saw limited action, mostly on special teams, in all 12 games as a true freshman in 2007 and recorded four tackles without a tackle for loss or sack. Tore a pectoral muscle after ’08 spring practice and sat out the season opener against Charleston Southern but started 4-of-13 games at left end and notched 24-9-5. In ’09, started 8-of-13 games — five at left defensive tackle and three at right defensive end — and posted 34-11-7 with two batted passes and two forced fumbles. Started all 13 games at left defensive end in ’10, although he moved inside on some third-down plays, and recorded 45-11-7 with one pass batted down. Team captain.

Positives: Has raw, brute, country strength and is chiseled like a Greek god. Physical marvel. Very strong at the point of attack and can set the edge, push the pocket and anchor vs. the double-team. Almost never gets knocked off the ball and has exceptional two-gap strength. Outstanding energy and effort — runs to the ball. Has a 36-inch vertical jump and good lower-body explosion. Strong tackler. Outstanding character. Highly motivated, hardworking and driven to succeed.

Negatives: Average instincts and awareness. Does not have an arsenal of pass-rush moves and relies too much on the bull rush. Too robotic and mechanical in his movement. Has a tendency to play very upright and struggles to unlock his hips. Lacks an innate feel for the game and is late to react to what he sees. Cannot create one-on-one. Can be more disciplined with his eyes.

Summary: A big, tightly wound, country-strong bookend whose lackluster Senior Bowl performance clearly emphasized a lack of instincts that could drive down his value. Nonetheless, is a physical marvel with rare strength and could be programmed to serve as a fencepost in an odd front. Scheme-diverse and has eventual starter potential as a base end, kicking inside in passing situations, or as a five-technique in a 3-4 front.

NFL projection: Second- to third-round pick.

Chiefnj2 · 05-02-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So do you have faith in Jackson to develop? Is so, do you consider bulking up Dorsey to play the nose?

If nothing else, we seem to have a good rotation put together, no? If Powe can play 1st and 2nd down, you can move Dorsey to NT on passing downs alongside Jackson and Bailey to push upfield.

I wouldn't move Dorsey. Let Bailey rotate in for Dorsey and T Jax. Powe can back up Smith for a year or two. Pass rush should be (L to R) Gilberry, Bailey, Dorsey.

ChiefsCountry · 05-02-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So do you have faith in Jackson to develop? Is so, do you consider bulking up Dorsey to play the nose?

If nothing else, we seem to have a good rotation put together, no? If Powe can play 1st and 2nd down, you can move Dorsey to NT on passing downs alongside Jackson and Bailey to push upfield.

Jackson gets pulled and Gillberry comes in that scenario. Dorsey at Nose with Bailey and Giberry on the sides. With Hali and Houston coming from the outside.

Hammock Parties · 05-02-2011, 01:01 PM

Our nickel rush is going to be

Hali Dorsey Gilberry Houston

That is damn fine, son.

tyton75 · 05-02-2011, 01:19 PM

I'm hearing some say that the plan may very well be to move Dorsey to nose, at least in the rotation at nose

HotRoute · 05-02-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

I'm hearing some say that the plan may very well be to move Dorsey to nose, at least in the rotation at nose

I would be hesitant to do this since he has just started to prove he can be a good DE

DJ's left nut · 05-02-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HotRoute

I would be hesitant to do this since he has just started to prove he can be a good DE

He's proven he can play DE at an acceptable level; that he's an NFL caliber starting 3-4 DE.

But I won't say 'good'. If they think they can put him at the NT, keep his quickness and help him possibly reach the potential he had as the #5 overall pick, I'd certainly like to see it tried.

He's a nice player and certainly not a 'bust'. But he's not an impact guy either. If they think they can get more out of him at the nose, he's not been so great at DE that I wouldn't make the move for fear of messing him up.

philfree · 05-02-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

I'm hearing some say that the plan may very well be to move Dorsey to nose, at least in the rotation at nose

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey.

Don't know what they have left to trade. Of course this would be after the league is open for business.

PhilFree

**Saul Good** · 05-02-2011, 01:43 PM

The guy's got to learn to get off the line more quickly if he's going to be worth a shit. The guy screams Vernon Gholston to me.

Chiefnj2 · 05-02-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's not been so great at DE that I wouldn't make the move for fear of messing him up.

He was as good as he could be considering the rest of the DL.

HotRoute · 05-02-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey.

Don't know what they have left to trade. Of course this would be after the league is open for business.

PhilFree

HELL NO!!!

Los Pollos Hermanos · 05-02-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey.

Don't know what they have left to trade. Of course this would be after the league is open for business.

PhilFree

Dorsey for Ryan.

HotRoute · 05-02-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas

Dorsey for Ryan.

Dimitrioff would be trying to make up for trading so many picks by trading more of them?? (I doubt it) I dont see many players on their roster that be worth Dorsey's value

Hammock Parties · 05-02-2011, 02:01 PM

There is no ****ing way we should trade Dorsey. He is the best defensive lineman we have and our run defense would suffer greatly without him.

HotRoute · 05-02-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red 5

There is no ****ing way we should trade Dorsey. He is the best defensive lineman we have and our run defense would suffer greatly without him.

Exactly not to mention, Trade talks at this point in time are meaningless.

The CBA and lockout should be priority #1

TheGuardian · 05-02-2011, 02:09 PM

We're not trading Dorsey.

He won't be moved to nose tackle.

Back to reality folks.

04-29-2011, 07:49 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $950478	DE Allen Bailey Miami COUNTRY STRONG! Height: 6-3 Weight: 285 Speed: 4.78 Arm: 34 Hand: 10 1/4 Wingspan: 82 1/4 Birthdate: 03/25/1989 Hometown: Sapelo, GA Grade: 5.67 Notes: Also played basketball as a prep. Highly recruited linebacker-fullback who played just four games as a senior because of a stress fracture in his back. Grew up in the village of Hog Hammock on Sapelo Island, a tiny (approximately 100 residents), remote location 15 miles off the coast of Georgia. Bailey commuted 45 minutes — by ferry, then by bus — to attend school. Spent nights sleeping at a teammate’s house on the mainland during the season. Saw limited action, mostly on special teams, in all 12 games as a true freshman in 2007 and recorded four tackles without a tackle for loss or sack. Tore a pectoral muscle after ’08 spring practice and sat out the season opener against Charleston Southern but started 4-of-13 games at left end and notched 24-9-5. In ’09, started 8-of-13 games — five at left defensive tackle and three at right defensive end — and posted 34-11-7 with two batted passes and two forced fumbles. Started all 13 games at left defensive end in ’10, although he moved inside on some third-down plays, and recorded 45-11-7 with one pass batted down. Team captain. Positives: Has raw, brute, country strength and is chiseled like a Greek god. Physical marvel. Very strong at the point of attack and can set the edge, push the pocket and anchor vs. the double-team. Almost never gets knocked off the ball and has exceptional two-gap strength. Outstanding energy and effort — runs to the ball. Has a 36-inch vertical jump and good lower-body explosion. Strong tackler. Outstanding character. Highly motivated, hardworking and driven to succeed. Negatives: Average instincts and awareness. Does not have an arsenal of pass-rush moves and relies too much on the bull rush. Too robotic and mechanical in his movement. Has a tendency to play very upright and struggles to unlock his hips. Lacks an innate feel for the game and is late to react to what he sees. Cannot create one-on-one. Can be more disciplined with his eyes. Summary: A big, tightly wound, country-strong bookend whose lackluster Senior Bowl performance clearly emphasized a lack of instincts that could drive down his value. Nonetheless, is a physical marvel with rare strength and could be programmed to serve as a fencepost in an odd front. Scheme-diverse and has eventual starter potential as a base end, kicking inside in passing situations, or as a five-technique in a 3-4 front. NFL projection: Second- to third-round pick.
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05-02-2011, 01:01 PM	#138
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05-02-2011, 01:19 PM	#139
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	The guy's got to learn to get off the line more quickly if he's going to be worth a shit. The guy screams Vernon Gholston to me. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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05-02-2011, 02:01 PM	#148
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $950478	There is no ****ing way we should trade Dorsey. He is the best defensive lineman we have and our run defense would suffer greatly without him.
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05-02-2011, 02:09 PM	#150
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6315299	We're not trading Dorsey. He won't be moved to nose tackle. Back to reality folks.
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