Chiefs Yahoo.com Draft Grades - Page 7

**BigMeatballDave** · 11:12 AM

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Denver Broncos
Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal.
Grade: B
Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft.

Kansas City Chiefs
Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon.
Grade: B-
Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters.

Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.

San Diego Chargers
Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar.
Grade: B
Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven.

NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division.

**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

4.53 at the combine.
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JC = 4.38 at the combine

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:24 PM

I can't post links yet for Von Miller's 40 but I have read numerous articles saying he has been timed at 4.42 and ESPN even has 4.42 listed as his 40 time here....

espn. go. com/nfl/topics/_/page/von-miller

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 08:25 PM

Did you know that Jonathan Baldwin ran a 4.2 40 in a super secret workout open only to a few people? My buddy was one and he saw it. He did it numerous times, too.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:26 PM

NFL draft scout his him timed at 4.42 as well.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

I can't post links yet for Von Miller's 40 but I have read numerous articles saying he has been timed at 4.42 and ESPN even has 4.42 listed as his 40 time here....

espn. go. com/nfl/topics/_/page/von-miller

What did he run at the combine? 4.53 . That's about as "official " as it gets.
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Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Did you know that Jonathan Baldwin ran a 4.2 40 in a super secret workout open only to a few people? My buddy was one and he saw it. He did it numerous times, too.

I'm not talking out of my ass. 99% of what I post has a link to back it up.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Did you know that Jonathan Baldwin ran a 4.2 40 in a super secret workout open only to a few people? My buddy was one and he saw it. He did it numerous times, too.

Somewhere someone said he ran a 4.37. That's true. But I'm not believing that either.
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Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What did he run at the combine? 4.53 . That's about as "official " as it gets.
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ESPN says his combine 40 was 4.42 go the link I posted. You will see the chart showing all of his combine results on the right side of the screen .

Ebolapox · 05-03-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

I can't post links yet for Von Miller's 40 but I have read numerous articles saying he has been timed at 4.42 and ESPN even has 4.42 listed as his 40 time here....

espn. go. com/nfl/topics/_/page/von-miller

so you're telling me you didn't see any of texas a&m games to see how fast he is? didn't watch his 40 times at the combine or a&m's pro day?

yeah. you didn't. shut the **** up, idiot.

**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 08:28 PM

Brandon Carr = 4.43

milkman · 05-03-2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo

NFL draft scout his him timed at 4.42 as well.

So, even his fastest time on a favorable track is still slower than Charles' combine time.

And his combine time is not even close.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo

I'm not talking out of my ass. 99% of what I post has a link to back it up.

I don't care what some link says. Got video to prove it? They have video of his 4.53
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**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 08:30 PM

Derrick Johnson = 4.44

Hammock Parties · 05-03-2011, 08:30 PM

Von Miller's 40 is irrelevant. We're going to be running right at his skinny ass.

**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo

I'm not talking out of my ass. 99% of what I post has a link to back it up.

A good 40 time doesn't mean shit. He still wouldn't have the speed to contain Jamaal Charles without any interior help from your awful and shitty defensive line.

Not to mention he's got a long ways to go if he wants to learn how to play linebacker in the 4-3. He needs to develop a new skill set that he doesn't quite have yet.

05-03-2011, 11:06 AM
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Yahoo.com Draft Grades http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._grades_050111 Bite me, if repost Denver Broncos Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal. Grade: B Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft. Kansas City Chiefs Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon. Grade: B- Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters. Oakland Raiders Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry . Grade: B+ Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent. San Diego Chargers Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar. Grade: B Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven. NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division. Last edited by BigMeatballDave; 05-03-2011 at 11:12 AM..
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05-03-2011, 08:24 PM	#92
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3858675	I can't post links yet for Von Miller's 40 but I have read numerous articles saying he has been timed at 4.42 and ESPN even has 4.42 listed as his 40 time here.... espn. go. com/nfl/topics/_/page/von-miller
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05-03-2011, 08:26 PM	#94
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05-03-2011, 08:30 PM	#104
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