Football The Bizarre Cult Of Pro-Owner NFL Fanboys

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-12-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Being the owner of a business, I can see where they are coming from.

Being a former employee of a business, I can see where they are coming from.

With that said, any employee that thinks he is entitled to a set % of the businesses income can politely go **** HIMSELF. It is none of their business to know how much the company is bringing in. Get paid,

, or get another job. I don't give a ****.

Have you ever been a business owner in which your product is the employee?

**notorious** · 05-12-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Have you ever been a business owner in which your product is the employee?

In almost every business the product is the owner/employee.

I sale, install, and refinish hardwood floor. They purchase my product because they are purchasing me. They could go to Home Depot and get similar shit for cheaper, but I sell them myself and my employees while the actual product is almost an afterthought.

We have a fairly rare skillset, but not nearly as rare as a 260 lb LB that can run a 4.5 40. I can't just go out and hire anyone off the street to fill an opening, just like an NFL player. If I don't find one, I will be patient until someone with the skills fits the bill.

The NFL will be the same way. If the current players do not want to work for millions, the NFL will shut down until they buckle and accept the new terms, or wait for a new crop of the same skill level players coming out of college that are fine with working for lower pay.
It will take time (5-10 years), but the level of play will come back.

It won't get that far. Owners will shut it down and watch the players slowly implode.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-12-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

In almost every business the product is the owner/employee.

Hardly. The product here is football. NFL players are among the worlds best athletes.

Fans come to watch the players.

No one gives a shit what the owners are doing on Sundays.

**notorious** · 05-12-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Hardly. The product here is football. NFL players are among the worlds best athletes.

Fans come to watch the players.

No one gives a shit what the owners are doing on Sundays.

I misread the question.

Sorry, my business is 80% me, 15% product, and 5% employee.

**Dave Lane** · 05-12-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I misread the question.

Sorry, my business is 80% me, 15% product, and 5% employee.

Yep thats the way a small business should be

**notorious** · 05-12-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Yep thats the way a small business should be

You flatter me so.

I need the pickup after BCD figured out I was talking out of my ass.

jspchief · 05-12-2011, 08:31 PM

All you have to do to understand why people side with the owners is ask yourself a series of questions.

1. Who has the long term health of the league as a priority, players or owners?

2. Is keeping the NFL affordable to fans an important aspect of the long term health of the league?

3. Who makes decisions that control affordability, players or owners?

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Originally Posted by BCD

Hardly. The product here is football. NFL players are among the worlds best athletes.

Fans come to watch the players.

No one gives a shit what the owners are doing on Sundays.

And the players don't give a shit if you can afford to watch the NFL in 10 years because on average, their career will be over.

**alnorth** · 05-12-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

All you have to do to understand why people side with the owners is ask yourself a series of questions.

1. Who has the long term health of the league as a priority, players or owners?

2. Is keeping the NFL affordable to fans an important aspect of the long term health of the league?

3. Who makes decisions that control affordability, players or owners?

And the players don't give a shit if you can afford to watch the NFL in 10 years because on average, their career will be over.

if you said anything other than "nobody" for #2 and #3, you are incredibly naive.

jspchief · 05-12-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

if you said anything other than "nobody" for #2 and #3, you are incredibly naive.

So you think NFL owners want to price their product out of range of their customers? Not very sound business.

**notorious** · 05-12-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

So you think NFL owners want to price their product out of range of their customers? Not very sound business.

They are already.

Besides, most of their money is made outside the stadium a.k.a. TV.

**alnorth** · 05-12-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

So you think NFL owners want to price their product out of range of their customers? Not very sound business.

The owners are motivated by profit, not affordability. If they could find 100 fans each willing to pay 1 million dollars per ticket, they would do that in a heartbeat even though it would mean their stadiums are as empty and silent as a mausoleum.

Ticket prices are based on maximizing revenue, raising price just to the breaking point but not quite beyond (for many people, not all). The owners don't give a rat's ass about keeping tickets affordable, nor should they.

tk13 · 05-12-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

So you think NFL owners want to price their product out of range of their customers? Not very sound business.

That's where I think people might get lost on this. They're trying to apply real world mom and pop store ideas to a business that's printing money. We've yet to truly see where the limit is on this... and you can certainly argue the owners are going to push the limit until they find out.