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Old 05-12-2011, 12:15 AM  
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Judgement Day is coming

Some Say Judgment Day Will Take Place Saturday, May 21, 2011
Monday, May 9, 2011 Zondra Hughes
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Harold Camping predicts Christ will return on May 21, 2011.

Judgment Day is just a few days away. Christ will return on May 21, 2011, according to Harold Camping, founder of We Can Know radio.

Camping has been spreading the word about the final days via his Christian Network (that consists of a radio station and companion website), www.wecanknow.com.

We Can Know is the organization behind a series of biblical billboards that bear the date of the Rapture. The organization’s philosophy is that, “We can know something about how God will behave in the future by looking at how He has behaved in the past (Hebrews 13:8). Since He has given advance notice of the precise timing for judgment in the past, we should not be surprised that He is revealing the timing of the end today.”

The We Can Know end of the world campaign has included bumper stickers, pamphlets and even a few mainstream interviews to get the message out.

Follower Kevin Brown said to NPR that God has told him to spread the word about May 21, 2011. “People need to know,” Kevin Brown told NPR, “and God commands us to share the Gospel about the end of the world. He says if we do not share the Gospel then their blood will be on our hands, whether they believe or not. God’s been moving me to do this.”

Camping arrived at the date by the Good Book, which he says predicts that the Rapture is to occur 7,000 years after God’s first warning about the flood. Camping said the flood happened in 4990 B.C., on what would have been May 21 on today’s calendar.

One day equals 1,000 years to God, and God gave Noah one week of warning. And thus, there is a 7,000-year gap between Noah’s flood and the Rapture, bringing us to May 21, 2011.

Not everyone believes the clock will run out on May 21. The American Vision organization points out that Camping initially said the end of the world would occur in 1994.

“In spite of the failure of his 1994 Rapture prediction, Harold Camping is predicting May 21, 2011, as the date the Rapture will take place,” the organization states. “American Vision is so confident that Camping is wrong, we are holding our National Prophecy Conference just a few weeks after his predicted rapture date.”

Judgment Day is also a great week to throw a party, according to the American Atheists, who do not believe in God. The Atheists are hosting a Rapture after-party to prove that Camping is wrong. –zondra hughes
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:53 PM   #166
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Do people in rural areas of the globe whom have never heard of Jesus go to hell too?
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:57 PM   #167
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:14 PM   #168
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:23 PM   #169
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Do people in rural areas of the globe whom have never heard of Jesus go to hell too?
No. They do not. But a good question.

The book of Romans dives into this subject.

http://powertochange.com/students/neverheard/

explains it with the verses.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:30 PM   #170
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:40 PM   #171
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No. They do not. But a good question.

The book of Romans dives into this subject.

http://powertochange.com/students/neverheard/

explains it with the verses.
Logically then, wouldn't eradicating the word of god be the compassionate thing to do? If the goal is to avoid hell, and people who don't hear the word are not condemned, wouldn't making sure no one hears it guarantee that no one is sent to hell? The people who did it would surely go to hell, but their sacrifice would keep future generations in the safety of blissful ignorance for the rest of history.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:43 PM   #172
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Logically then, wouldn't eradicating the word of god be the compassionate thing to do? If the goal is to avoid hell, and people who don't hear the word are not condemned, wouldn't making sure no one hears it guarantee that no one is sent to hell? The people who did it would surely go to hell, but their sacrifice would keep future generations in the safety of blissful ignorance for the rest of history.
Yeah, heathens definitely get a better deal than devout Chrsitians. It's pretty easy to "respond to God" when the fact is staring you right in the face, lol. Not much faith is required out of you at that point.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:45 PM   #173
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Logically then, wouldn't eradicating the word of god be the compassionate thing to do? If the goal is to avoid hell, and people who don't hear the word are not condemned, wouldn't making sure no one hears it guarantee that no one is sent to hell? The people who did it would surely go to hell, but their sacrifice would keep future generations in the safety of blissful ignorance for the rest of history.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:49 PM   #174
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Logically then, wouldn't eradicating the word of god be the compassionate thing to do? If the goal is to avoid hell, and people who don't hear the word are not condemned, wouldn't making sure no one hears it guarantee that no one is sent to hell? The people who did it would surely go to hell, but their sacrifice would keep future generations in the safety of blissful ignorance for the rest of history.
Maybe, but obviously anyone that knows anything about authentic Christianity understands the goal is not to go to Heaven or avoid Hell.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:55 PM   #175
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Logically then, wouldn't eradicating the word of god be the compassionate thing to do? If the goal is to avoid hell, and people who don't hear the word are not condemned, wouldn't making sure no one hears it guarantee that no one is sent to hell? The people who did it would surely go to hell, but their sacrifice would keep future generations in the safety of blissful ignorance for the rest of history.
Absolutely not

"The Bible tells us that even people who don’t have that law nonetheless have their own “law” — their own moral standard within their hearts (Romans 2:14-15). For example, if in his heart Nick believes it is wrong for others to talk behind his back, then that is a law within his heart. Therefore, when Nick talks behind someone else’s back, he has disobeyed the moral standard within his heart, thus proving he is a sinner."

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Old 05-19-2011, 02:56 PM   #176
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If the goal is to avoid hell, and people who don't hear the word are not condemned
Where did you get that? Text just states simply that you're not doomed if you come from a place where nobody has heard of Jesus. Didn't say "okay you're in"
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Maybe, but obviously anyone that knows anything about authentic Christianity understands the goal is not to go to Heaven or avoid Hell.
True dat.

So then why does religion constantly pound the concept of heaven and hell down your throat?

You just made a very valid point on why I have such a hard time "finding my faith". SO many religions and Chruches/people have twisted and contorted it. They put the fear in you.

They WANT you to be afraid of hell. How else do they expect many of these people to keep their faith?

A lot of them wouldn't if not for the fear of damnation.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:03 PM   #178
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So how about this hypothetical situation?

A baby is born to a jungle tribe that has no religion and no contact with outsiders. This baby grows to be the nicest, most kindhearted individual possible. This person has done no wrong or broken any moral rule of the tribe. Basically lead the most wholesome life possible, but devoid of religion.

Is this person denied entrance to heaven and forced to endure the rapture simply because of the geographical limitations of their own birthplace? If so, how can you deem that as fair judgment?
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:03 PM   #179
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Where did you get that? Text just states simply that you're not doomed if you come from a place where nobody has heard of Jesus. Didn't say "okay you're in"
You're either in or your out. There is only two places to go. Unless your Catholic.
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So how about this hypothetical situation?

A baby is born to a jungle tribe that has no religion and no contact with outsiders. This baby grows to be the nicest, most kindhearted individual possible. This person has done no wrong or broken any moral rule of the tribe. Basically lead the most wholesome life possible, but devoid of religion.

Is this person denied entrance to heaven and forced to endure the rapture simply because of the geographical limitations of their own birthplace? If so, how can you deem that as fair judgment?
They're not. According to the bible, they cannot deny Jesus if they don't know he exists. You go to hell for denying the love of our lord.
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