Another two weeks before the lockout is over?

[ToxSocks]

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.


The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.

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dkaplanSBJdaniel kaplan





USA Today reporting players have rejected the deal.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

No AGREEMENT - this is all the owners per Mort the agreement the OWNERS voted on is NOT what D. Smith has been negoitating.

NO FOOTBALL FOR A LONG LONG TIME I'M AFRAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS IMPLODING BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

AFTER TONIGHT, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THERE IS EVEN ONE NEGOTIATING SESSION AFTER TONIGHT BEFORE LABOR DAY!!!!!!!

all caps is not necessary

[007]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

dkaplanSBJdaniel kaplan





USA Today reporting players have rejected the deal.

if true then **** them.

[BryanBusby]

hmmm

from Mike Silvers twitter

The owners' conditional acceptance was a power play--daring the players to swallow terms that have not yet been negotiated. Stay tuned.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

If they reject the deal they can screw themselves. You are blessed. You get paid an insane amount of money to play a kids game. Stop the madness.

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dkaplanSBJdaniel kaplan


Now hearing USA Today report not accurate. Dosn't mean players like the owners proposal, just no rejection, yet

[Mr. Laz]

my imagination or are Busby and ChiefsO'fan way to intent/excited about a deal not being done?

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

This was a power play by the owners to try to get a CBA passed with language that wasn't part of the negotiations. Sounds like the owners made changes to the players last offer, and ratified it without running it by players.

Apparently the owners sent over an incomplete settlement.

The players will balk, and look like the bad guy.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

AlbertBreerAlbert Breer

On our air, @Jay_Glazer just said there's gonna be NO player vote. I'm hearing this call is not going well right now.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

hmmm

from Mike Silvers twitter

Exactly.

You posted this while I was typing my post.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Laz

my imagination or are Busby and ChiefsO'fan way to intent/excited about a deal not being done?

no you're just overexcited to get one done and not even realizing it's a business first and one side is trying to ass **** the other

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sounding more and more like the owners ratified an incomplete and very vague settlement.

If so, the players would be stupid to vote on something that still leaves a lot of issues unsolved.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sounding more and more like the owners ratified an incomplete and very vague settlement.

If so, the players would be stupid to vote on something that still leaves a lot of issues unsolved.

agree

[kstater]

So what issues did the Owners change unilaterally in the deal?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by kstater

So what issues did the Owners change unilaterally in the deal?

we have no evidence that they did anything like that

players have yet to vote but we don't have any idea about why they haven't yet.