Another two weeks before the lockout is over?

[ToxSocks]

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.


The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.

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Originally Posted by Crush

The players have it set at 40 posts per page and the owners have it set at 80 posts per page.

[the Talking Can]

here's an early analysis of the known terms of the 'deal' (the stuff that presumably has been settled by both sides):

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...osed-deal.html


fyi...

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Overall, though, I think this is just some last minute, BS drama. I don't believe the owners are so ****ing stupid as to try to pass something untenable on to the players at this point. That veil would quickly be stripped.

Reading everything this morning, that's my interpretation as well. Last minute hijinks leading to a resolution.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

here's an early analysis of the known terms of the 'deal' (the stuff that presumably has been settled by both sides):

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...osed-deal.html


fyi...

Minimum Salaries

First-year minimum salary will go from $320,000 to $375,000; second year minimum salary will rise from $395,000 to $450,000. In fact, all minimum salary levels have gone up $55,000 from 2010 levels. The minimums will rise $15,000 per year from there.

Analysis: Approximately half of the Players in the league are playing under minimum salaries. These are healthy increases. This may be the unsung hero issue of the deal.

nice cost of living increase....

[The Bad Guy]

Of course Vonnie Holliday has a reason to lie. He's trying to convince fans in a time of basic economic depression that football players should be exempt from such hardships.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The smartest move for the players, in the long run, would be to tell the owners to go **** themselves, and that they shouldn't come back to the table until they fix the revenue sharing amongst the owners, instead of trying to take that money back from the players' slice of the pie. The players just aren't smart enough, and don't have the willpower. The money is just too tempting for them.

i thought they did come to an agreement on revenue sharing.

[tomahawk kid]

Here's my thumbnail sketch of what happened:

The NFLPA fumble fucked the paperwork and the players, looking for a reason to freak out, lost their collective shit.

THEN, once the actual paperwork was presented, it sounds like cooler heads prevailed and this MAY BE down to 1-2 issues.

I've had the impression all along that De Smith is in over his head in this deal, and last night seemed to back up my thinking in that regard.

I mean, how the fuck do you NOT have a copy of the paper work when presenting it to your players? That's basic diligence.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Here's my thumbnail sketch of what happened:

The NFLPA fumble fucked the paperwork and the players, looking for a reason to freak out, lost their collective shit.

THEN, once the actual paperwork was presented, it sounds like cooler heads prevailed and this MAY BE down to 1-2 issues.

I've had the impression all along that De Smith is in over his head in this deal, and last night seemed to back up my thinking in that regard.

I mean, how the fuck do you NOT have a copy of the paper work when presenting it to your players? That's basic diligence.

Rules violation. Circumventing of the profanity filter.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

greggrosenthalgregg rosenthal

In theory teams can't sign UFAs till Wednesday. Could negotiate Sat. Allowed. http://bit.ly/ncQpOh RT @AlfieBCC howso?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Here's my thumbnail sketch of what happened:

The NFLPA fumble fucked the paperwork and the players, looking for a reason to freak out, lost their collective shit.

THEN, once the actual paperwork was presented, it sounds like cooler heads prevailed and this MAY BE down to 1-2 issues.

I've had the impression all along that De Smith is in over his head in this deal, and last night seemed to back up my thinking in that regard.

I mean, how the fuck do you NOT have a copy of the paper work when presenting it to your players? That's basic diligence.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Brock

care to explain this post?

[Mr. Laz]

looks like the players have cooled off a little bit

most of yesterday was them just stamping their feet and screaming "you're not the boss of me!! LaLaLa *fingers in ears*" because they didn't want the owners to TELL them what to do.

I imagine they will fumble around a little bit more today and then make a few VERY PUBLIC demands to make sure the whole word knows that they are not being controlled by the owners before they end up approving the CBA.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

care to explain this post?

Sure. I found what he wrote to be very simple-minded and funny.

[BossChief]

They will **** around for a few days (until the heatwave passes) and then get it signed.

These vets that are pa reps don't want to practice in this heat.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

sure sounds like no vote today