Football Another two weeks before the lockout is over? - Page 36

ToxSocks · 07-21-2011, 11:07 AM

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.

The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.

Mr. Laz · 07-22-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

They will **** around for a few days (until the heatwave passes) and then get it signed.

These vets that are pa reps don't want to practice in this heat.

didn't think about that

the new CBA prohibits full contact 2-a-day practices btw

tomahawk kid · 07-22-2011, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Sure. I found what he wrote to be very simple-minded and funny.

Really?

How so?

The notion that the NFLPA reportedly didn't have a copy of the full 300 page proposal at the time of the conference call is me being simple minded?

**SAUTO** · 07-22-2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Sure. I found what he wrote to be very simple-minded and funny.

why?

Mr. Laz · 07-22-2011, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Really?

How so?

The notion that the NFLPA reportedly didn't have a copy of the full 300 page proposal at the time of the conference call is me being simple minded?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

why?

because it casts a negative light on the union and it's leader and that is completely unacceptable. Everyone knows that unions are superior and would never make such mistakes.

Hammock Parties · 07-22-2011, 09:28 AM

**BossChief** · 07-22-2011, 09:30 AM

A clown with no shoes?

Fail

**BossChief** · 07-22-2011, 09:32 AM

Mort is reporting that players camp is cooled down and a vote will happen today and is expected to pass!

Per am 1600

kstater · 07-22-2011, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Mort is reporting that players camp is cooled down and a vote will happen today and is expected to pass!

Per am 1600

must have not found that trillion the owners were trying to hide.

DMAC · 07-22-2011, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Mort is reporting that players camp is cooled down and a vote will happen today and is expected to pass!

Per am 1600

It's always opposite day with these ****ers.

**BossChief** · 07-22-2011, 09:36 AM

Also, kolb is going to zona and is already working with fitz.

Supposedly a trade for players, not picks.

Mr. Laz · 07-22-2011, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Mort is reporting that players camp is cooled down and a vote will happen today and is expected to pass!

Per am 1600

figures ... i still the the players make one more really public stink before it's all over. They have to make a few CBA demands to let the rank and file, along with the public in general, know that they are not being told what to do by the owners.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-22-2011, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

figures ... i still the the players make one more really public stink before it's all over. They have to make a few CBA demands to let the rank and file, along with the public in general, know that they are not being told what to do by the owners.

Thats a old report mort has back off that big time said he thinks no vote today now

Hammock Parties · 07-22-2011, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Mort is reporting that players camp is cooled down and a vote will happen today and is expected to pass!

Per am 1600

Now the players have hatched a scheme to make the owners look bad.

Watch.

Mr. Laz · 07-22-2011, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Thats a old report mort has back off that big time said he thinks no vote today now

when the CBA gets approved will you be sad?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-22-2011, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

when the CBA gets approved will you be sad?

Just letting you all know the facts.

07-21-2011, 11:07 AM
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