ESPN's Bill Williamson Ranks AFCW's Top 40 Players

[CoMoChief]

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...n-the-afc-west


1. Philip Rivers, San Diego: He is an elite player at the most important position on the field.

2. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: There’s a reason he’ll be the top prize in free agency.

3. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City: One of the NFL’s most dynamic young players.

4. Antonio Gates, San Diego: He should end up in Canton.

5. Tamba Hali, Kansas City: One of the NFL’s best defensive players.

6. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City: He is a game-changing talent.

7. Richard Seymour, Oakland: Respected veteran changed Oakland’s defense.

8. Vincent Jackson, San Diego: Expect a strong rebound in 2011.

9. Ryan Clady, Denver: One of the game's premier left tackles.

10. Champ Bailey, Denver: Even at 33, he is special.

11. Eric Berry, Kansas City: He should be the game’s best safety soon.

12. Nick Hardwick, San Diego: An anchor to a strong offensive line.

13. Darren McFadden, Oakland: He is developing into a star.

=> 14. Matt Cassel, Kansas City: Cassel has to continue to make strides.

15. Zach Miller, Oakland: He can make Oakland’s offense special.

16. Derrick Johnson, Kansas City: He is a serious playmaker.

17. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: Solid veteran is an anchor to a good defense.

18. Kris Dielman, San Diego: A steady hand on the Chargers’ line.

19. D.J. Williams, Denver: He is a tackling machine.

20. Marcus McNeill, San Diego: He’s an upper-echelon left tackle.

21. Shaun Phillips, San Diego: He is one of the division’s best pass-rushers.

22. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: One of the game’s best young cornerbacks.

23. Eric Weddle, San Diego: A hard-nosed playmaker at safety.

24. Glenn Dorsey, Kansas City: He came on strong in 2010.

25. Tommy Kelly, Oakland: Massive defensive tackle had a big season in 2010.

26. Elvis Dumervil, Denver: If Dumervil bounces back from sitting out in 2010, he should be ranked higher next year.

27. Rolando McClain, Oakland: McClain has a chance to be one of the division’s better linebackers.

28. Brandon Lloyd, Denver: Lloyd came out of nowhere for a special 2010.

29. Shane Lechler, Oakland: The game’s best kicking specialist.

30. Ryan Lilja, Kansas City: A gritty, tough veteran guard.

31. Malcom Floyd, San Diego: He can make the spectacular catch look easy.

32. Brian Waters, Kansas City: A great veteran presence on a good line.

33. Jason Campbell, Oakland: Oakland will be depending on Campbell a lot this season.

34. Kamerion Wimbley, Oakland: He can get sacks in bunches.

35. Tony Moeaki, Kansas City: Second-year tight end is a player to watch.

36. Lamarr Houston, Oakland: He has a chance to be special.

37. Antonio Garay, San Diego: He had a strong 2010 season at 31.

38. Ryan Mathews, San Diego: He showed flashes as a rookie.

39. Michael Bush, Oakland: He and McFadden form a nice tandem.

40. Thomas Jones, Kansas City: He can still help the Chiefs at 33.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by milkman

Edit:I'd put Manning ahead of Favre, but they would be right there with each other.

They're a lot of like, both great numbers guys but chokers, except for one season apeice. Manning protects the ball better but Favre had the better arm.

The only reason I like Favre better is he played outdoors, a small detail to some, it's still more impressive.

Its because of the throwing dumb ints then leading epic drives to make up for them that Favre is/was WAY more fun to watch.

[Param]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

Elvis missed the entire season. Hali produced last year. You can't rank an injured player very high when he could come back and bust.

[Param]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

I certainly wouldn't put Favre ahead of Montana or Brady on my list of Best QB's, but I still think I'd put him ahead of Manning and Marino and pretty much everyone that fits in the category of "Great Regular Season QB, not so so great Post Season QB. Except maybe Tarkenton, that guy looked like a hoss.

Every QB great goes ahead of Marino. He didn't win the big one.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

TJ ALWAYS gets his ass kissed by the media. I just don't get it. He was absolutely HORRIBLE the last 8 games of the season. Worst performer on our team IMO.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

KnowMo, quit bitching about Elvis. You KNOW Hali is the better man.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan

If you TRULY believe that......you're dumber than I thought

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

If you TRULY believe that......you're dumber than I thought

He sucks.

That is all.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

Dont even try to pull the "what have you done for me lately" card.

Nobody ever heard of Dumervil before the 09 season.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Man we could have had a hell of QB if you could put DeBerg's heart and heat in Grbac's body.

DeBerg was a bad ass. He had my respect.

During his career, DeBerg also acquired a reputation for playing through particularly gruesome or unique injuries. He played with laryngitis and wore a portable amplifier during regular season games with San Francisco. He also played with a broken non-throwing hand and an exposed metal pin sticking out of his finger in a Chiefs playoff victory in 1990. In 1993, he left a Dolphins game versus the New York Giants battered and bloodied after taking a helmet to the chin, only to return to the game following halftime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_DeBerg

[listopencil]

This is what's crazy about DeBerg:

In 1977, the Dallas Cowboys drafted Steve DeBerg in the 10th round of the draft. With Legendary quarterback Roger Staubach and Danny White on the team, DeBerg was cut and did not make the team.
In 1978, DeBerg went to San Francisco to play quarterback. In 1979, Joe Montana was selected in the third round and eventually replaced DeBerg. After a 3000-yard passing season in 1979, he was finally replaced after 11 games in the 1980 season by Montana.
In 1981, DeBerg went to the Denver Broncos for a shot to be the starting quarterback. After two seasons, John Elway was drafted by the Colts and was traded to Denver after he refused to play in Baltimore.
In 1984, Steve DeBerg headed to lowly Tampa Bay. Unfortunately, both Steve Young and the first pick in the draft, Vinney Testaverde pushed DeBerg out again. DeBerg did have back-to-back seasons with 19 touchdown passes.

In 1988, DeBerg found a home in Kansas City. He had a solid season that year, throwing 16 touchdowns and 16 interceptions. Two years later, DeBerg had his best season. DeBerg completed 58 percent of his passes for 3444 yards, 23 touchdown passes and only 4 interceptions. He led the Chiefs to the playoffs. Ironically, he would once again be followed by Joe Montana, this time in Kansas City.



http://www.20yardline.com/kansas-city-chiefs-articles/current/steve-deberg.html

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's amazing how our level of QB play has made me wax nostalgic for guys like DeBerg.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan

It's amazing how our level of QB play has made me wax nostalgic for guys like DeBerg.

You could do a lot worse than DeBerg.

[listopencil]

Don't make me start copy-and-pasting Chuck Norris quotes with DeBerg edited in. I'll do it. I swear I will.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by listopencil

This is what's crazy about DeBerg:

In 1977, the Dallas Cowboys drafted Steve DeBerg in the 10th round of the draft. With Legendary quarterback Roger Staubach and Danny White on the team, DeBerg was cut and did not make the team.
In 1978, DeBerg went to San Francisco to play quarterback. In 1979, Joe Montana was selected in the third round and eventually replaced DeBerg. After a 3000-yard passing season in 1979, he was finally replaced after 11 games in the 1980 season by Montana.
In 1981, DeBerg went to the Denver Broncos for a shot to be the starting quarterback. After two seasons, John Elway was drafted by the Colts and was traded to Denver after he refused to play in Baltimore.
In 1984, Steve DeBerg headed to lowly Tampa Bay. Unfortunately, both Steve Young and the first pick in the draft, Vinney Testaverde pushed DeBerg out again. DeBerg did have back-to-back seasons with 19 touchdown passes.

In 1988, DeBerg found a home in Kansas City. He had a solid season that year, throwing 16 touchdowns and 16 interceptions. Two years later, DeBerg had his best season. DeBerg completed 58 percent of his passes for 3444 yards, 23 touchdown passes and only 4 interceptions. He led the Chiefs to the playoffs. Ironically, he would once again be followed by Joe Montana, this time in Kansas City.



http://www.20yardline.com/kansas-city-chiefs-articles/current/steve-deberg.html

Except he wasn't immediately followed by Montana in KC.

That would be Dave Krieg.
Another in a laundry list of useless QB transactions in KC.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Dont even try to pull the "what have you done for me lately" card.

Nobody ever heard of Dumervil before the 09 season.

Don't know how that is possible. Doom did have 20 sacks his first two years in the league.