**** The Official Free Agency Thread ****

[Titty Meat]

Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here.

I'll try to keep up this updated.


UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents


http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ee-agency1.pdf









**Free Agent Signings Recap **

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php






** Notable Rumors **


Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain

Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle

Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon

Raiders:



Other teams in the league:

Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry

Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free

Vikings acquire Mcnabb.

Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen.

Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud

Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick

Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan

Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery

Panthers trade for Greg Olsen

Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye

Bills sign Brad Smith

Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round.

Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning

Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright

Falcons sign Ray Edwards

Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall

Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown

Saints sign Darren Sproles

Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements

Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett

49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Look at all the Steeler OLBs that leave and you know what else leaves?

Their production.

Is the history really that deep? Their history is that they cut Joey Porter and Jason Gildon when they were at the end of their careers. The Cards signed Clark Haggans at a pretty old age, and he's doing as well as you'd expect of a 33 year old OLB.

[KCrockaholic]

D_Mims70 David Mims
Happy to say that I am officially a Kansas City Chief

Awesome.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

No way.

Before the draft? sure

Houston and Studebaker are our two LOLBs

Id be fine with Studebaker as depth, but Houston needs to be on the field.

Studebaker should not stand in the way of bringing a stud in at any position.
Last year, we were obsessed with bringing in playmakers. Now all of a sudden, the argument has shifted to "make sure we fill all our holes?"

Houston may have potential, but given the importance of the LOLB position, why would we gamble on a second rounder? Worst case scenario, Houston turns out to be terrific and you have 3 excellent pass rushers--it's a great problem to have. I don't think there's a single fan outside of Kansas City that could justify passing on a 10+ sack guy like Woodley because of an unproven second round pick.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I also don't see any way possible the Chiefs pay Eric Weddle. He's going to get 7 mill a year and that's too much when Lewis is ascending and Berry is well, Berry.

Damn, I didnt think he would get anywhere near that amount.
He would be a good signing for half that.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Is the history really that deep? Their history is that they cut Joey Porter and Jason Gildon when they were at the end of their careers. The Cards signed Clark Haggans at a pretty old age, and he's doing as well as you'd expect of a 33 year old OLB.

Clark Haggans left 5 years ago when he was 29 and he's been a basic ghost since. Chad Brown left, never ever duplicated the play he displayed in Pittsburgh.

It's a great system for OLB's and I would never advocate trading for a player who might just be a really great system guy.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Damn, I didnt think he would get anywhere near that amount.
He would be a good signing for half that.

He's easily getting that.

OJ Atogwae got 7 million a year from Washington and he's coming off a horrible year.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Look at all the Steeler OLBs that leave and you know what else leaves?

Their production.

Vrabel disagrees, and Brown was as good in Seattle as he was in Pittsburgh.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Question... who here would be willing to trade a first to get Lamar Woodley?

I think it would be a waste to trade a first for Woodley when you have Houston.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Vrabel disagrees

Let me know when Vrabel was a star for the Steelers. He had 27 total tackles in 4 years.

He was also more of an ILB/special teams player for them.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Vrabel disagrees, and Brown was as good in Seattle as he was in Pittsburgh.

No, he wasn't. You obviously don't remember a lick of how unreal Chad Brown was as a Steeler. He was never even close to that level. He was good in Seattle, but he was never great.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Clark Haggans left 5 years ago when he was 29 and he's been a basic ghost since. Chad Brown left, never ever duplicated the play he displayed in Pittsburgh.

It's a great system for OLB's and I would never advocate trading for a player who might just be a really great system guy.

I think there could be some truth to the Steelers' system helping out players. No doubt Woodley benefits, given that he plays opposite Harrison. But the sample size is just too small. Haggans' production isn't that much different in Arizona than it was in Pittsburgh--it's not like Haggans was all-world when he was in Pittsburgh either. Porter was past his prime. And Chad Brown was 15 years ago, and much of that poor transition might be due to the Seahawks stupidly trying to transition him from 3-4 OLB to 4-3 OLB. We all know that's not even close to the same position, a mistake few teams probably make these days.

[The Bad Guy]

For instance, Brown in 1996 with Pittsburgh racked up 110 tackles, 13 sacks, with 2 picks. That's DPOY material right there.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Studebaker should not stand in the way of bringing a stud in at any position.
Last year, we were obsessed with bringing in playmakers. Now all of a sudden, the argument has shifted to "make sure we fill all our holes?"

Houston may have potential, but given the importance of the LOLB position, why would we gamble on a second rounder? Worst case scenario, Houston turns out to be terrific and you have 3 excellent pass rushers--it's a great problem to have. I don't think there's a single fan outside of Kansas City that could justify passing on a 10+ sack guy like Woodley because of an unproven second round pick.

third round pick

still, no

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think there could be some truth to the Steelers' system helping out players. No doubt Woodley benefits, given that he plays opposite Harrison. But the sample size is just too small. Haggans' production isn't that much different in Arizona than it was in Pittsburgh--it's not like Haggans was all-world when he was in Pittsburgh either. Porter was past his prime. And Chad Brown was 15 years ago, and much of that poor transition might be due to the Seahawks stupidly trying to transition him from 3-4 OLB to 4-3 OLB. We all know that's not even close to the same position, a mistake few teams probably make these days.

All I'm saying is the examples of players never duplicating the success they had in Pittsburgh far outweighs the amount of success former Steeler outside backers have had elsewhere.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

No, he wasn't. You obviously don't remember a lick of how unreal Chad Brown was as a Steeler. He was never even close to that level. He was good in Seattle, but he was never great.

Brown had one big sack year in his career. He was an All Pro twice, once on each team. Most of his big tackle years were in Seattle.