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Old 07-25-2011, 10:26 AM  
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**** The Official Free Agency Thread ****
Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here.

I'll try to keep up this updated.


UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents


http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ee-agency1.pdf









**Free Agent Signings Recap **

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php






** Notable Rumors **


Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain

Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle

Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon

Raiders:



Other teams in the league:

Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry

Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free

Vikings acquire Mcnabb.

Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen.

Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud

Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick

Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan

Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery

Panthers trade for Greg Olsen

Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye

Bills sign Brad Smith

Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round.

Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning

Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright

Falcons sign Ray Edwards

Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall

Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown

Saints sign Darren Sproles

Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements

Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett

49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:47 AM   #496
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You're wrong.
No, he was drafted in the third round. I'm not saying I"m wrong or right. I'm saying you're speculating. I think we got a steal, but I'm not going to lose sight of the fact that many qualified scouts didn't think highly enough to give him even a second round draft grade.

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Don't get too sappy with Franklin. He does almost nil for the pass rush. He has shown he can be the man to stop the run game though. The reason I'm okay with him being the guy is that I don't trust a rookie to shut down the run game. I have no problem with Powe going in on passing downs and trying to do what he was good at in college and pressure the QB. In the meantime he learn to read blocking schemes and develops his run stopping game. Then so long Franklin, or whoever the run stopping NT winds up being.
I thought you said that a Nose Tackle would open up the pass rush? If Franklin plays at his best, he undoubtedly improves the pass rush.

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Chill out you defense junkie. We can't sign every top defender in FA just 'cause you want a 24/7 erection.
Funny what a difference a year makes. Last year, we heard day after day about playmakers. Has that changed? I think the Chiefs go playmaker or they go value. I don't want to pay for overpaid tweeners like we've always done in the past. Franklin is different, because you can frontload and not get hit on your cap a few years from now. Apart from that, I'm merely talking about moves that I believe will bring playmakers in KC, and that that should be on defense because it's clear that defense is going to be a huge part of how we win football games until Cassel gives me reason to believe otherwise.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:51 AM   #497
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Whatever. I'm going to bed.

It will be interesting to see how many people truly believe (when I wake up) that he is the best 3-4 pass rusher in the game, as you have claimed.
Don't twist the words. I said he is the most productive pass rushing 3-4 end over the last two years. Disrupting play more than any other. Not everyone's going to agree. Some measure a pass rushers worth solely on sacks.

Also, Hali is pretty iffy in coverage, he's not bad, but not good either. Also, his run D isn't as good as some of the others.

As we have been talking about pressuring the QB all night though, he is most certainly in the same league as Harrison, Woodley, and Ware. His disruptive presence with little to no help should be enough for you to admit that. Though they may be more complete players than he is. He most closely resembles Ware in that the rest of his game is nothing compared to his pass rush.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:58 AM   #498
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Don't twist the words. I said he is the most productive pass rushing 3-4 end over the last two years. Disrupting play more than any other. Not everyone's going to agree. Some measure a pass rushers worth solely on sacks.

Also, Hali is pretty iffy in coverage, he's not bad, but not good either. Also, his run D isn't as good as some of the others.
He's not a polished tackler. Sadly.

He gets excited when he can make a play and doesn't wrap up...

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As we have been talking about pressuring the QB all night though, he is most certainly in the same league as Harrison, Woodley, and Ware. His disruptive presence with little to no help should be enough for you to admit that. Though they may be more complete players than he is. He most closely resembles Ware in that the rest of his game is nothing compared to his pass rush.
I think he'll finally have someone opposite him and he'll be far more productive even if it nets him fewer sacks...
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:04 AM   #499
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No, he was drafted in the third round. I'm not saying I"m wrong or right. I'm saying you're speculating. I think we got a steal, but I'm not going to lose sight of the fact that many qualified scouts didn't think highly enough to give him even a second round draft grade.
Who said they didn't give him a second round grade? Guys with high grades drop all the time for different reasons. You know why he dropped.

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I thought you said that a Nose Tackle would open up the pass rush? If Franklin plays at his best, he undoubtedly improves the pass rush.
Not all NT's are created equal. Like I said, Franklin is great against the run, but has never been much of a presence in the pass rush. He's a two down guy who will command 3 down money.

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Funny what a difference a year makes. Last year, we heard day after day about playmakers. Has that changed? I think the Chiefs go playmaker or they go value. I don't want to pay for overpaid tweeners like we've always done in the past. Franklin is different, because you can frontload and not get hit on your cap a few years from now. Apart from that, I'm merely talking about moves that I believe will bring playmakers in KC, and that that should be on defense because it's clear that defense is going to be a huge part of how we win football games until Cassel gives me reason to believe otherwise.
Man, we all have our wet dream FA list every year. Look at this team though and tell me which playmakers were signed as FA's? I personally don't want to go back the the Carl Peterson days. First it's this guy who's front loaded contract won't kill us, then the next year when we don't win it, it's this other guy, and another. Forcing us into win now mode(gotta win before all these stud FA signings contracts run out causing us to decline when we can no longer afford them and they leave) and throwing us into cap hell.

I'm all for breaking the bank for the big signing when he can truly put us over the top NOW. They won't though. We'll have a stud defense and an offense playing catch up.

I'd rather see us sign our own guys, and extend as many contracts as we feel necessary, then, with the money left over, frontload a guy or two's contracts. If we were able to do that though, we wouldn't have the jack for both Franklin and Woodley.
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I wonder if Arizona goes for him.
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I wonder if Arizona goes for him.
seems like they're in love with Kolb...


but Orton is a pretty good QB with a habit of boner throws late in the game..


I'm glad Denver is rolling w/ Tebow, they are without question the worst team in the division
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seems like they're in love with Kolb...


but Orton is a pretty good QB with a habit of boner throws late in the game..


I'm glad Denver is rolling w/ Tebow, they are without question the worst team in the division
Kolb is interesting. I question his value in return for what someone is probably going to pay for him. But at the end of the day you need a ****ing QB so it will probably work out for someone.

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Kolb is interesting. I question his value in return for what someone is probably going to pay for him. But at the end of the day you need a ****ing QB so it will probably work out for someone.

If I am a GM I am praying for 2009 Kolb.
agree, Orton is probably a better value..but Kolb has the perception of 'upside' still....
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He'd be a very nice, hopefully cheap, insurance policy in case of injury or if Baldwin can't start.
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