Chiefs DE Allen Bailey Miami - Page 11

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2011, 07:49 PM

COUNTRY STRONG!

Height: 6-3
Weight: 285
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67

Notes: Also played basketball as a prep. Highly recruited linebacker-fullback who played just four games as a senior because of a stress fracture in his back. Grew up in the village of Hog Hammock on Sapelo Island, a tiny (approximately 100 residents), remote location 15 miles off the coast of Georgia. Bailey commuted 45 minutes — by ferry, then by bus — to attend school. Spent nights sleeping at a teammate’s house on the mainland during the season. Saw limited action, mostly on special teams, in all 12 games as a true freshman in 2007 and recorded four tackles without a tackle for loss or sack. Tore a pectoral muscle after ’08 spring practice and sat out the season opener against Charleston Southern but started 4-of-13 games at left end and notched 24-9-5. In ’09, started 8-of-13 games — five at left defensive tackle and three at right defensive end — and posted 34-11-7 with two batted passes and two forced fumbles. Started all 13 games at left defensive end in ’10, although he moved inside on some third-down plays, and recorded 45-11-7 with one pass batted down. Team captain.

Positives: Has raw, brute, country strength and is chiseled like a Greek god. Physical marvel. Very strong at the point of attack and can set the edge, push the pocket and anchor vs. the double-team. Almost never gets knocked off the ball and has exceptional two-gap strength. Outstanding energy and effort — runs to the ball. Has a 36-inch vertical jump and good lower-body explosion. Strong tackler. Outstanding character. Highly motivated, hardworking and driven to succeed.

Negatives: Average instincts and awareness. Does not have an arsenal of pass-rush moves and relies too much on the bull rush. Too robotic and mechanical in his movement. Has a tendency to play very upright and struggles to unlock his hips. Lacks an innate feel for the game and is late to react to what he sees. Cannot create one-on-one. Can be more disciplined with his eyes.

Summary: A big, tightly wound, country-strong bookend whose lackluster Senior Bowl performance clearly emphasized a lack of instincts that could drive down his value. Nonetheless, is a physical marvel with rare strength and could be programmed to serve as a fencepost in an odd front. Scheme-diverse and has eventual starter potential as a base end, kicking inside in passing situations, or as a five-technique in a 3-4 front.

NFL projection: Second- to third-round pick.

HotRoute · 05-02-2011, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

We're not trading Dorsey.

He won't be moved to nose tackle.

Back to reality folks.

exactly

Frankie · 05-02-2011, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree

I read a rumor on ESPN that Atlanta wants to trade for Dorsey.

Don't know what they have left to trade.

The fact that Atlanta seems to be trying for a big Super Bowl run this year (evident by their expensive trade to draft Jones) makes this plausible. I like Dorsey enough, but I don't see him as irreplaceable. And he is a bit of a fish out of water in our D system. For the right price from a motivated buyer like Atlanta I wouldn't mind seeing him go.

Frankie · 05-02-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

We're not trading Dorsey.

He won't be moved to nose tackle.

Back to reality folks.

I think this is closest to facts.

Bill Lundberg · 05-02-2011, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

And he is a bit of a fish out of water in our D system.

He's a pretty badass fish out of water. I'd love to see what he could do "in water"...

Frankie · 05-02-2011, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

He's a pretty badass fish out of water. I'd love to see what he could do "in water"...

I didn't use the best analogy. He has done very well with what he's been dealt. But I don't think he exactly has the body type or the background to play a 34 DE. Nor can he have enough bulk to play NT.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-02-2011, 08:34 PM

Trading Dorsey would be the height of stupidity. I'd rather cut Jackson than trade Dorsey for a 1st.

LiL stumppy · 05-02-2011, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's proven he can play DE at an acceptable level; that he's an NFL caliber starting 3-4 DE.

But I won't say 'good'. If they think they can put him at the NT, keep his quickness and help him possibly reach the potential he had as the #5 overall pick, I'd certainly like to see it tried.

He's a nice player and certainly not a 'bust'. But he's not an impact guy either. If they think they can get more out of him at the nose, he's not been so great at DE that I wouldn't make the move for fear of messing him up.

Dorsey has performed very well. I don't any 3-4 DE is worthy of a top 5, so that is a moot point.

He has been very good there, you wont be able top judge by his stats how well he has played, that's not his job.

milkman · 05-02-2011, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I wouldn't move Dorsey. Let Bailey rotate in for Dorsey and T Jax. Powe can back up Smith for a year or two. Pass rush should be (L to R) Gilberry, Bailey, Dorsey.

Smith played almost exclusively at DE last year.

He didn't play well on the interior in the previous couple of years.

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2011, 07:59 PM

lolwut?

Quote:

Round 3: Allen Bailey, DE, Miami
The 280-pound Bailey may have some trouble fitting into the Chiefs’ 3-4 defense. Most likely, his duties will be on special teams in 2011, while the Chiefs training staff work with him on adding a little bulk.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-13-2011, 08:11 PM

Wow, who wrote that bit?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-13-2011, 08:12 PM

Adding bulk?

xztop12 · 08-13-2011, 08:13 PM

I really wouldn't mind seeing how much weight Bailey can add. He might be able to get up to 310 and still move

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2011, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

Wow, who wrote that bit?

It was on Pro Football Focus.

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2011, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop12

I really wouldn't mind seeing how much weight Bailey can add. He might be able to get up to 310 and still move

When most players add weight they want to add muscle.

Bailey already has the musculature of most 300+ pounders.

I wonder if adding a gut would just make him slower.

He could be a John Randle type player.

tonyetony · 08-13-2011, 08:19 PM

I watched the game again this morning and isolated on him and thought his play is pretty comparable to Tyson Jackson's. He played a lot of snaps last night and was held quite a bit so he definitely needs to develop a rip move. He will be getting more playing time than special teams this year I guarantee it.

Bulking up???? WTF chuck.

04-29-2011, 07:49 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $950478	DE Allen Bailey Miami COUNTRY STRONG! Height: 6-3 Weight: 285 Speed: 4.78 Arm: 34 Hand: 10 1/4 Wingspan: 82 1/4 Birthdate: 03/25/1989 Hometown: Sapelo, GA Grade: 5.67 Notes: Also played basketball as a prep. Highly recruited linebacker-fullback who played just four games as a senior because of a stress fracture in his back. Grew up in the village of Hog Hammock on Sapelo Island, a tiny (approximately 100 residents), remote location 15 miles off the coast of Georgia. Bailey commuted 45 minutes — by ferry, then by bus — to attend school. Spent nights sleeping at a teammate’s house on the mainland during the season. Saw limited action, mostly on special teams, in all 12 games as a true freshman in 2007 and recorded four tackles without a tackle for loss or sack. Tore a pectoral muscle after ’08 spring practice and sat out the season opener against Charleston Southern but started 4-of-13 games at left end and notched 24-9-5. In ’09, started 8-of-13 games — five at left defensive tackle and three at right defensive end — and posted 34-11-7 with two batted passes and two forced fumbles. Started all 13 games at left defensive end in ’10, although he moved inside on some third-down plays, and recorded 45-11-7 with one pass batted down. Team captain. Positives: Has raw, brute, country strength and is chiseled like a Greek god. Physical marvel. Very strong at the point of attack and can set the edge, push the pocket and anchor vs. the double-team. Almost never gets knocked off the ball and has exceptional two-gap strength. Outstanding energy and effort — runs to the ball. Has a 36-inch vertical jump and good lower-body explosion. Strong tackler. Outstanding character. Highly motivated, hardworking and driven to succeed. Negatives: Average instincts and awareness. Does not have an arsenal of pass-rush moves and relies too much on the bull rush. Too robotic and mechanical in his movement. Has a tendency to play very upright and struggles to unlock his hips. Lacks an innate feel for the game and is late to react to what he sees. Cannot create one-on-one. Can be more disciplined with his eyes. Summary: A big, tightly wound, country-strong bookend whose lackluster Senior Bowl performance clearly emphasized a lack of instincts that could drive down his value. Nonetheless, is a physical marvel with rare strength and could be programmed to serve as a fencepost in an odd front. Scheme-diverse and has eventual starter potential as a base end, kicking inside in passing situations, or as a five-technique in a 3-4 front. NFL projection: Second- to third-round pick.
Posts: 296,913

05-02-2011, 08:34 PM	#156
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7229572	Trading Dorsey would be the height of stupidity. I'd rather cut Jackson than trade Dorsey for a 1st. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,077

08-13-2011, 08:11 PM	#160
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $318880	Wow, who wrote that bit? __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
Posts: 72,942

08-13-2011, 08:12 PM	#161
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2151115	Adding bulk?
Posts: 60,749

08-13-2011, 08:13 PM	#162
xztop12 Starter Join Date: May 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	I really wouldn't mind seeing how much weight Bailey can add. He might be able to get up to 310 and still move
Posts: 785

08-13-2011, 08:19 PM	#165
tonyetony tonyetony Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yeah Right! Casino cash: $9977948	I watched the game again this morning and isolated on him and thought his play is pretty comparable to Tyson Jackson's. He played a lot of snaps last night and was held quite a bit so he definitely needs to develop a rip move. He will be getting more playing time than special teams this year I guarantee it. Bulking up???? WTF chuck.
Posts: 1,446