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Old 07-18-2011, 09:15 PM  
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:36 PM   #481
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Well, let me put it this way: If Fox decides to sue the Big XII for breach of contract because a 1/12th of the package they promised is no longer there, are you trying to tell me the Big XII wouldn't turn around and sue A&M for the same amount because you equate the Big XII as Texas? I have to admit, I don't understand Texas very well.
I doubt that the Big XII would have made an absolute promise to Fox that they would never lose a team throughout the duration of that contract thus opening themselves up to a lawsuit. I would imagine that there is some sort of contingency built into the contract for just such a circumstance.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:41 PM   #482
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I think it will be just a matter of time before there is no Big 12 conference, mostly because of the assholeness that is UT. I just hope that when it goes down, there is a different AD at Mizzou because Alden will undoubtedly screw it up and they'll end up somewhere like the Mountain West.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:44 PM   #483
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I doubt that the Big XII would have made an absolute promise to Fox that they would never lose a team throughout the duration of that contract thus opening themselves up to a lawsuit. I would imagine that there is some sort of contingency built into the contract for just such a circumstance.
My understanding, and this just comes from a blog that I read, is that these contracts are written to the benefit of the network, not the conferences. While I suspect the networks would readjust the total amount of the contract while effectively guaranteeing the remaining schools the original cut, this still doesn't necessarily cover damages from the fact A&M is now no longer available to FOX, which means a market decrease in most cases which could affect their advertising negotiations.

Its just hard for me to imagine a school that had allowed an entity (the conference) to negotiate a new contract for them and then just walks away because it feels it can get a better deal somewhere else to the detriment of one of the parties isn't going to get off that easy. Last year, the 2nd tier rights were ending and the networks had already gotten some value for the 1st tier. This is a little different situation.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:46 PM   #484
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My understanding, and this just comes from a blog that I read, is that these contracts are written to the benefit of the network, not the conferences. While I suspect the networks would readjust the total amount of the contract while effectively guaranteeing the remaining schools the original cut, this still doesn't necessarily cover damages from the fact A&M is now no longer available to FOX, which means a market decrease in most cases which could affect their advertising negotiations.

Its just hard for me to imagine a school that had allowed an entity (the conference) to negotiate a new contract for them and then just walks away because it feels it can get a better deal somewhere else to the detriment of one of the parties isn't going to get off that easy. Last year, the 2nd tier rights were ending and the networks had already gotten some value for the 1st tier. This is a little different situation.
The contract is between the network and the conference. Once aTm leaves, they aren't part of the conference. aTm has their own contract with the conference that outlines the penalties for breaking the contract. Beyond those penalties, it really isn't aTm's concern.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:50 PM   #485
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The contract is between the network and the conference. Once aTm leaves, they aren't part of the conference. aTm has their own contract with the conference that outlines the penalties for breaking the contract. Beyond those penalties, it really isn't aTm's concern.
That makes some sense. My guess, then, would be they would be in a much weaker position to negotiate those fees down than Colorado and Nebraska due to the relative newness of the agreement?
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:59 PM   #486
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That makes some sense. My guess, then, would be they would be in a much weaker position to negotiate those fees down than Colorado and Nebraska due to the relative newness of the agreement?
Your guess is as good as mine. As I said before, I have no knowledge of this situation. I'm just making guesses that make the most sense to me.
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Yeah, but if the SEC is a bit apprehensive concerning possible legal ramifications, I don't understand why A&M would think aspects of those same legal ramifications wouldn't fall on them if they said "I quit you Big XII" or just apply to another conference. I am by no means an expert in these legal matters, but can someone explain to me how A&M doesn't open themselves to legal action by FOX and/or the Big XII for a breach of contract? I mean, can A&M show in any form they were done injury or harm by the Big XII that would give them legal justification for not living up to the contract they were a party to?
I doubt if FOX has any basis for a lawsuit. They have the option to void the contract if it doesn't work for them anymore. It's the Big 12 that would be damaged if their product is no longer attractive enough for FOX to honor the contract.

But I'm skeptical about the Big 12's basis for a lawsuit too. When Nebraska and Colorado left, the "penalty" they had to pay was a pre-agreed amount in lieu of actual damages and I'd imagine that the same type of arrangement is in place here too.

Of course, all of this is speculation and the truth depends on what the contracts actually say.
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Here's an interesting take. Its a pro A&M blog, but it makes some sense:

http://outkickthecoverage.com/how-es...o-sec-deal.php
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