Chiefs Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season - Page 4

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 12:49 PM

Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind.

I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sh*t. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season.

I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. **** it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know.

But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for **** sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. **** these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters.

I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team.

I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ****ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. **** him. If he ****'s this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here.

Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind.
I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to **** us up and run us down to the ground.

Reerun_KC · 08-29-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Well if Andrew Luck is such a sure thing and Cassel is so terrible, it only makes sense, right?

And NFL executives would be able to see that and make it happen right?>

**ChiefGator** · 08-29-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

In all honesty, I hope they win the Super Bowl this season.

Why do you hate the Chiefs so much? Seriously.. WHY!?

You want to win the Super Bowl THIS year, when we could lose every game and possibly get the second coming of ... well ... we're not quite sure yet.

Get outta here, you fair-weather, success-wanting, selfish, selfish non-fan man.

beach tribe · 08-29-2011, 01:38 PM

I'm so sick of every one acting like we won't draft a QB in the first round because we have Cassel. If a QB falls to us ala' A. Rogers, or there is a QB worth our pick, I will bet that we pull the trigger. Hunt has said he wants to draft, and develop a QB, and everyone acts like just because we went out and got Cassel, that he doesn't still want to do that. He does, and I would almost put money on the fact that Cassel's successor will be a QB drafted, and developed by us.

And screw your outlook on this season. You're a quitter, and a pussy.

beach tribe · 08-29-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

Just shut up already.

**luv** · 08-29-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Yes I have. And they have done a great job addressing most positions but yet have failed to address the most important position on the team. Heck, Ive been watching this team for a while and Im sick of seeing us with journeyman QBs. Why can't I hope for a top 5 draft pick to be a QB?

We've had the opportunity in recent years to get a QB with a top 5 pick. It hasn't happened. You want us to keep having top picks until we get someone at every position we need?

MoreLemonPledge · 08-29-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And NFL executives would be able to see that and make it happen right?>

Nope, only fans on a message board have enough foresight to make this happen.

Buns · 08-29-2011, 01:41 PM

I lurk heavily. I love this site.

This guys stupidity got me to post.

I would lose a lot of respect for my team, if I thought they were throwing away a season for a chance at a high pick for a QB who no one knows for sure will be any good. I feel stupider thinking about the OP, as every second goes by.

I don't know if the Chiefs can win big or win little this year, but I want everyone from top to bottom busting their ass to win every game.

I'm iffy on Cassel btw.

**luv** · 08-29-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Why do you hate the Chiefs so much? Seriously.. WHY!?

You want to win the Super Bowl THIS year, when we could lose every game and possibly get the second coming of ... well ... we're not quite sure yet.

Get outta here, you fair-weather, success-wanting, selfish, selfish non-fan man.

Okay, this made me laugh out loud. Literally.

**ChiefGator** · 08-29-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I'm so sick of every one acting like we won't draft a QB in the first round because we have Cassel.

And likewise, just because a good QB is sitting there in the draft at our position, we may not take him. We're not going to get a shot at Luck with our roster. I'm sorry, but there is no way we do not win at least 4-5 games and end up at pick three or lower.

So, now you are hoping Pioli drafts the second best QB you like a whole bunch, but he may be happy with Stanzi, Palko, or looking in free agency.

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Originally Posted by luv

Okay, this made me laugh out loud. Literally.

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Well if Andrew Luck is such a sure thing and Cassel is so terrible, it only makes sense, right?

You're basing this on guarantees. Im saying that is not the way the Chiefs operate.

Buns · 08-29-2011, 01:43 PM

I want a Stanzi #13 jersey. Is that preemptive?

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

We've had the opportunity in recent years to get a QB with a top 5 pick. It hasn't happened. You want us to keep having top picks until we get someone at every position we need?

I didn't say that. I said this year may be worth it because I think Luck is going to be a good NFL QB.

MoreLemonPledge · 08-29-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

You're basing this on guarantees. Im saying that is not the way the Chiefs operate.

So what exactly is the point of your thread other than to stretch "I hate Cassel" into a short story?

**ChiefGator** · 08-29-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtua Chief

I want a Stanzi #13 jersey. Is that preemptive?

Woah, woah.. let's wait until all the cuts go through.

Stanzi may change his jersey number then.

**RealSNR** · 08-29-2011, 01:46 PM

Cassel bashers have had 3 years to vent out frustrations. It's come in the form of Cassel threads, Sanchez threads, McCluster threads, Pioli threads, Star Trek threads, and (of course) draft threads. And so much more, including stuff in DC

RedThat chose to keep his doubts suppressed for awhile. What you're seeing here is the releasing of that anger he's been keeping hidden deep down for a long time.

You'll be fine, RedThat. Try drinking a nice hot cup of Ricky Stanzi. It will take the edge off.

08-29-2011, 12:49 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind. I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sht. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season. I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. * it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know. But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters. I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team. I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. him. If he 's this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here. Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind. I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to ** us up and run us down to the ground.
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08-29-2011, 01:38 PM	#48
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3988036	I'm so sick of every one acting like we won't draft a QB in the first round because we have Cassel. If a QB falls to us ala' A. Rogers, or there is a QB worth our pick, I will bet that we pull the trigger. Hunt has said he wants to draft, and develop a QB, and everyone acts like just because we went out and got Cassel, that he doesn't still want to do that. He does, and I would almost put money on the fact that Cassel's successor will be a QB drafted, and developed by us. And screw your outlook on this season. You're a quitter, and a pussy.
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08-29-2011, 01:41 PM	#52
Buns BUNS <3 2PM Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $3351989	I lurk heavily. I love this site. This guys stupidity got me to post. I would lose a lot of respect for my team, if I thought they were throwing away a season for a chance at a high pick for a QB who no one knows for sure will be any good. I feel stupider thinking about the OP, as every second goes by. I don't know if the Chiefs can win big or win little this year, but I want everyone from top to bottom busting their ass to win every game. I'm iffy on Cassel btw.
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08-29-2011, 01:43 PM	#56
Buns BUNS <3 2PM Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $3351989	I want a Stanzi #13 jersey. Is that preemptive?
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