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Old 08-29-2011, 12:49 PM  
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Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season

Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind.

I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sh*t. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season.

I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. **** it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know.

But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for **** sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. **** these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters.

I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team.

I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ****ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. **** him. If he ****'s this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here.

Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind.
I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to **** us up and run us down to the ground.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:15 PM   #121
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What if the Chiefs were 1-14. Tied for last in the NFL. The team that is tied with them wins, do you root for the Chiefs to win or lose if it means they can be better by taking a certain player?

Because I wanted to see the Rams improve their future, not the result of one game, when they had the worst record in the NFL in Week 17 of the 2009 season.
I think that is an entirely different scenario, BUT

I have never wanted the Chiefs to lose a game to get a better draft pick....Usually at the end of the season we are playing against the Raiders or Broncos or something and its a team I hate anyhow....

BUT

Not really caring about the last game in a 1-14 already lost season is not even in the same universe as actively rooting for a bad season before we have even played one game.

BUT

Having the 1st pick at 1-15 season versus having a 2 or 3 in a 2-14 season probably wouldnt make much diffeence...

So yah, if its a division opponent or an opponent who we can knock out of the playoffs..I root for us to win...If its a completely meaningless game I just don't give a shit but I don't root for us to lose.

So **** that other guy.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:18 PM   #122
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I think that is an entirely different scenario, BUT

I have never wanted the Chiefs to lose a game to get a better draft pick....Usually at the end of the season we are playing against the Raiders or Broncos or something and its a team I hate anyhow....

BUT

Not really caring about the last game in a 1-14 already lost season is not even in the same universe as actively rooting for a bad season before we have even played one game.

BUT

Having the 1st pick at 1-15 season versus having a 2 or 3 in a 2-14 season probably wouldnt make much diffeence...

So yah, if its a division opponent or an opponent who we can knock out of the playoffs..I root for us to win...If its a completely meaningless game I just don't give a shit but I don't root for us to lose.

So **** that other guy.
Yeah, I get there's a big difference. I think the only time I wouldn't want my team to go 1-15(if it's already Week 17 and the team is 1-14) would be if it was against a team that was in the division and about to make the playoffs, but if they lost they wouldn't.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:20 PM   #123
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I dunno.... I kinda like the guy...
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:21 PM   #124
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:23 PM   #125
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I dislike Cassel as a QB as much as anyone on this board (well, almost as much I'm sure), but there's no way in hell I'm going to root for the team to lose in order to get rid of him. Frankly, if it takes that much to make a change, the people running the organization are so stupid that we're ****ed from the beginning.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:25 PM   #126
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ILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER root for my team to tank a season. The day i do that, is the day i quit being a sports fan.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:26 PM   #127
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I dunno.... I kinda like the guy...
Yah he probably reminds you alot of Al Davis' plans for the raiders the last 20 years or so
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:43 PM   #128
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You are a ****ign asshat on the verge of getting on to my ignore list.

Your opinion that he sucks and can't improve is fine....But you are wrong...It is not fact, it is an opinion and CAN be spun.

You know what cannot be spun you ****ing imbecile? The fact that you are rooting for your own team to lose. There is no justification for THAT.

Why don't you step off your ****ing high horse before you start lecturing others, take your head out of your ass and get your facts straight about what can and can't be justified.

You ****ing ignoramus.
There is a justification its called "SACRIFICING NOW FOR A BETTER FUTURE" you ****ing stupid dense a** prick who is so caught up in the mother****ing title of the ****ing thread without failing to ****ing acknowledge and realize the ****ing point Im trying to express.

Heck, I even admitted it that I was willing to make myself look stupid for a ****ing reason that I feel the team is going nowhere with Cassel and the offense as a whole and the only hope I feel is that we can only get better IF we have a bit of setbacks and that IS what makes me hopeful that we can get a good shot at TALENTED PLAYERS AT KEY POSITIONS WITH a top ****ING draft pick that is why I stated I hope they would lose.

****! It was for hope ****ing sake. Now quit ****ing crucifying me.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:46 PM   #129
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Heck, I even admitted it that I was willing to make myself look stupid
Congrats, you succeeded brilliantly.

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Nah. I don't think you've learned your lesson yet. You have yet to admit you were wrong.

Admitting you are stupid is a pretty solid first step.

Now just take the next logical jump from there.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:49 PM   #130
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:49 PM   #131
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There is a justification its called "SACRIFICING NOW FOR A BETTER FUTURE" you ****ing stupid dense a** prick who is so caught up in the mother****ing title of the ****ing thread without failing to ****ing acknowledge and realize the ****ing point Im trying to express.

Heck, I even admitted it that I was willing to make myself look stupid for a ****ing reason that I feel the team is going nowhere with Cassel and the offense as a whole and the only hope I feel is that we can only get better IF we have a bit of setbacks and that IS what makes me hopeful that we can get a good shot at TALENTED PLAYERS AT KEY POSITIONS WITH a top ****ING draft pick that is why I stated I hope they would lose.

****! It was for hope ****ing sake. Now quit ****ing crucifying me.
The thing is, posting this at the halfway mark and suppose we are 3-5 at that time, it would seem less ridiculous.

To do it before even playing a down this season makes it crazy as hell.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:54 PM   #132
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What if the Chiefs were 1-14. Tied for last in the NFL. The team that is tied with them wins, do you root for the Chiefs to win or lose if it means they can be better by taking a certain player?

Because I wanted to see the Rams improve their future, not the result of one game, when they had the worst record in the NFL in Week 17 of the 2009 season.
I'll bet you anything a lot of people would hope for them to lose.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:54 PM   #133
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There is a justification its called "SACRIFICING NOW FOR A BETTER FUTURE" you ****ing stupid dense a** prick who is so caught up in the mother****ing title of the ****ing thread without failing to ****ing acknowledge and realize the ****ing point Im trying to express.

Heck, I even admitted it that I was willing to make myself look stupid for a ****ing reason that I feel the team is going nowhere with Cassel and the offense as a whole and the only hope I feel is that we can only get better IF we have a bit of setbacks and that IS what makes me hopeful that we can get a good shot at TALENTED PLAYERS AT KEY POSITIONS WITH a top ****ING draft pick that is why I stated I hope they would lose.

****! It was for hope ****ing sake. Now quit ****ing crucifying me.
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