Chiefs Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season - Page 11

RedThat · 08-29-2011, 12:49 PM

Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind.

I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sh*t. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season.

I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. **** it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know.

But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for **** sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. **** these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters.

I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team.

I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ****ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. **** him. If he ****'s this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here.

Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind.
I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to **** us up and run us down to the ground.

**ChiefGator** · 08-31-2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

He's Trent Dilfer. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm not saying thats a bad thing but I'm also not saying its a good thing.

Uhh.. that's pretty much a bad thing.

LOCOChief · 08-31-2011, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I said lose for a better future.

Do some of you believe that sometimes you got to be worse to get better?

Do some of you believe that success is not a smooth road? that you will encounter a few bumps along the way with a few setbacks.

Do some of you fail to understand that I care more about the teams long term success than I do about now?

NO
YES
YES
You don't build a team of winners by losing.

Go root for the Raiders, we don't need or want you.

**notorious** · 08-31-2011, 07:21 AM

WTF

Coogs · 08-31-2011, 07:44 AM

I understand your thinking and would love to have Luck. A better plan before the season starts would be to hope for Carolina or Cincannati to have a crappy season and have the #1 overall pick. Those two may look to deal out of the #1 overall if they have that pick.

Now if we open the season 0-5 or something like that... then we are right in the Luck derby ourselves by the looks of our schedule beyond that point.

Too early to hope we lose them all. Way too early.

milkman · 08-31-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

I used to think this way when we had the great QB battle between Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen. But now, we have a solid young team that is capable of winning each time they step onto the gridiron. The NFL media has hammered it into everyone's heads that you MUST have a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to win a Super Bowl. Yeah those QBs are gonna win Super Bowls. But I don't think it's impossible to win with a QB that can, at the very least, manage a game by not making a lot of mistakes.

With a good running game and defense, you can still win in this league.

You can win a SB with a mediocre QB, but to be a real SB contender each and every year, you need a QB that can take his team on his back and will his team to wins.

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Originally Posted by lcarus

If we have to be the dead last team in the NFL to get the #1 pick to get a possible elite QB, then **** an elite QB. We could do what good franchises do, and find a good QB in the draft and mold him into an elite QB by surrounding him with good players. Ben Roethlisberger was the 11th pick. Drew Brees was taken at the very end of the 2nd round. Aaron Rodgers was taken at the end of the 1st round. Tom Brady...we all know where he was taken. Flacco was taken 18th. Out of all the good quarterbacks in the league right now, only what...Manning and Vick were taken first overall? I'm just saying....we should do the best with what we've got and if our front office is worth their salt they will find their QB wherever we land in the draft.

Brees was taken at the top of the 2nd round, not the bottom.

**Dartgod** · 08-31-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I know everybody here HOPES Stanzi becomes that guy. But why not draft a QB in the first? If that guy becomes good, and Stanzi becomes good the qb position becomes even more solidified. Then what will people say?

I would imagine they would say that RedThat guy is a ****ing moron.

milkman · 08-31-2011, 07:51 AM

I could have conveyed the same exact thoughts that you are trying to convey, RT, in that long ass sleep inducing opening post, in 20 words or less.

The problem I would have is that, while my post wouldn't put everyone to sleep, I'd still look like a dumbass.

Chiefnj2 · 08-31-2011, 07:52 AM

I don't think you have to hope they fail. The first team is showing lots of big problems that aren't going to magically go away next week.

booyaf2 · 08-31-2011, 07:56 AM

Luck could have a subpar season and drop to the 2nd or 3rd best QB prospect. Little early to be talking about the 2012 draft class.

**The Bad Guy** · 08-31-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

6 paragraphs of stupidity, as usual.

C'mon, he normally just writes 6 sentences of nonsense. He's trying.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-31-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

I would imagine they would say that RedThat guy is a ****ing moron.

LOL

rep

rocknrolla · 08-31-2011, 11:07 AM

This is the second most reeruned thread I've seen here this week.

**Ming the Merciless** · 08-31-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla

This is the second most reeruned thread I've seen here this week.

I was gonna ask what the 1st was but I think I know what you're talking about...

Only on CP is a thread THIS ****ing stupid in clear second place...

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-31-2011, 05:05 PM

Here comes the "Oh, hai guys was just joking"

Now, I just need Milkman to translate that into RedThatish

**The Bad Guy** · 08-31-2011, 05:42 PM

If the Chiefs do have a good season, I don't want to see this abortion posting anything celebratory.

08-29-2011, 12:49 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Im taking things back...I hope the Chiefs tank the season Before I said I wanted the Chiefs to be successful this season but now I changed my mind. I honestly hope they fail. I know I look stupid for saying this, but I really don't give a sht. Please bear with me here and I'll give you my explanations as to why I want them to fail this season. I just simply think now is the right time for them to do that. That is all. I have come to the conclusion and decided that we are not going anywhere with Cassel. Im not placing my hopes in him. * it. I lost faith. He is not the answer. And I am now jumping on the bandwagon with the rest of the fans out there that we should draft a quarterback in the first round. Luck? possibly? It is wishful thinking at this point but I would never rule it out as a possiblity. You just never know. But I would love and absolutely love to have Andrew Luck. The guy is a gamer and will be an excellent NFL quarterback imo. But what will it take to get him? Thats the question. Do we have to finish in the bottom 5 in the league? Or, will he go #1 overall? I don't know. I can't see us being the worst team in the league. We have too much talent. But for once, I want this thing to be right for sakes. We do this by drafting a QB in the first. these journeyman no good projectory quarterbacks. they get you nothing in the end except 9-7 or 10-6 seasons at best. which is exactly what happened last year. Instead, I want the homerun. In fact, I want the grandslam. Im thinking big. Even if it means sacrificing this season to ensure a better longterm future. Im relying on hope brothers and sisters. I repeat, this team has a lot of talent. In fact, we have an abundance of talent. We have enough talent and good coaching on defense to be a top 10 D. We have a great running game, good young interior Olineman, good Wrs, good TE. The Chiefs are not that far off, believe me. But, we are missing a few big components that could easily make this team a failure and set them back a year or two. One of those is we lack a true legit QB, and a set of bookend OT's. Those are BIG BIG pieces to the puzzle of a championship team. I think Cassel is going to lose us games this year. Teams will be prepared to shut down the running game and we will be forced to pass. We don't have the QB or OTs to make an effective passing game. I don't expect us to improve in pass offense. Plus, we lost Charlie Weis as OC. I thought he made up for a lot. Big big loss there. One of the brightest minds in the game. And we have one of the worst offensive coaches in Bill Muir running the show. The offense will sputter big time this season. The defense will do its job but will be on the field long enough to wear down in games thanks in large part to the uncomplimentary offense we have. Do that against good teams and you're done. And we are going to play a lot of good teams. So.....the fact, we have a tough schedule, this team could be in for a long, losing season. It seriously wouldn't surprise me? there is nothing I have seen this preseason to say, "yeah this team has it." Nothing like that. They have been a joke. I know, I know its preseason. As most would say, big effing deal. IT IS A BIG DEAL! We should care because its part of preparation. Just the fact that Haley is not concerned about preseason and treating it like scrimmage raises a big red flag. What kind of a ing NFL coach does that? honestly. Who has done that this year? Nobody except boneheaded Todd. him. If he 's this season up because of that, he should be out the door. And that may be worth it? It might not be a bad thing if we could get a REAL coach and quarterback in here. Haley can easily screw this thing up. He makes a lot of boneheaded/head scratching decisions at times. Lets face it, he had a lot of help last year with Weis. Lets see how good he really is without a bright offensive mind. I just don't have a good feeling about him at all. He is going to ** us up and run us down to the ground.
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