Chiefs vs. Bills discussion thread...

[MoreLemonPledge]

Fun fact: Buffalo is returning 5 starters on their front 7. The same front seven that produced the worst run defense in the league last year.

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by scott free

L.O.L. bills fans talking big... oh hope, thou dost spring eternal.

WTF else am I supposed to do at this time of year? Piss and Moan?

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Fun fact: Buffalo is returning 5 starters on their front 7. The same front seven that produced the worst run defense in the league last year.

Really?

Name them.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

Really?

Name them.

Everyone but Barnett and Dareus.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Everyone but Barnett and Dareus.

You forgot about Merriman.

4/7

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

You forgot about Merriman.

4/7

He played last year.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

He played last year.

Not with the Bills.

I'm slightly concerned about Dareus and Merriman.

Not enough to make me think our defense won't rape the shit out of Fitzpatrick, though.

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Everyone but Barnett and Dareus.

Bzzt.

Buddy, you had to know, if I asked you to name them, that there's no way you were right about returning 5 starters...

Line: Dareus Williams(returning) Edwards
LBs: Kelsay(returning, sort of, not in this position much), Davis(hurt when we played you last, IRed), Barnett, Merriman

So, no, it's more like: you've see 1(one) of our guys in his position, full time, as a starter. This front 7 is not close to the one you saw last year, which was still mostly operating as a 4-3.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

Bzzt.

Buddy, you had to know, if I asked you to name them, that there's no way you were right about returning 5 starters...

Line: Dareus Williams(returning) Edwards
LBs: Kelsay(returning, sort of, not in this position much), Davis(hurt when we played you last, IRed), Barnett, Merriman

So, no, it's more like: you've see 1(one) of our guys in his position, full time, as a starter. This front 7 is not close to the one you saw last year, which was still mostly operating as a 4-3.

other than a Bill's fan, who would pay any attention to that team or know names of the players......I do recall Terrel Owens though

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

other than a Bill's fan, who would pay any attention to that team or know names of the players......I do recall Terrel Owens though

Other than the guy above who said we are returning 5 players to our front 7?

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

Other than the guy above who said we are returning 5 players to our front 7?

Yeah, I read it somewhere and assumed it was fact. I really have no clue about anything on the Buffalo defense, other than we ran all over your asses last year and will do it again on Sunday.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

Bzzt.

Buddy, you had to know, if I asked you to name them, that there's no way you were right about returning 5 starters...

Line: Dareus Williams(returning) Edwards
LBs: Kelsay(returning, sort of, not in this position much), Davis(hurt when we played you last, IRed), Barnett, Merriman

So, no, it's more like: you've see 1(one) of our guys in his position, full time, as a starter. This front 7 is not close to the one you saw last year, which was still mostly operating as a 4-3.

You can't count Dwan Edwards or Kelsay as not returning just because they're moving to different positions.

Garbage is still garbage even if it's rearranged garbage.

FYI, we are going to be running right at Dwan Edwards and Kelsay with our best run blockers. That's a bad matchup for you guys.

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

You can't count Dwan Edwards or Kelsay as not returning just because they're moving to different positions.

Garbage is still garbage even if it's rearranged garbage.

FYI, we are going to be running right at Dwan Edwards and Kelsay with our best run blockers. That's a bad matchup for you guys.

For reasons passing understanding, Marcus Stroud started ahead of Edwards lat year, and, Kelsay was playing 4-3 end and not 3-4 LB last year.

I think most people would agree that these aren't the same positions. I think most people in Buffalo would prefer that Kelsay be playing Left Off Team this year, but he has looked better in his new spot.

[Alaska Darin]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

For reasons passing understanding, Marcus Stroud started ahead of Edwards lat year, and, Kelsay was playing 4-3 end and not 3-4 LB last year.

I think most people would agree that these aren't the same positions. I think most people in Buffalo would prefer that Kelsay be playing Left Off Team this year, but he has looked better in his new spot.

Agreed. This defense is much bigger and more athletic than it was last season, though I still have questions about Kelsay and the secondary. I don't think there's any doubt that the run defense will be better because it's almost impossible for it to be worse.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

For reasons passing understanding, Marcus Stroud started ahead of Edwards lat year, and, Kelsay was playing 4-3 end and not 3-4 LB last year.

I think most people would agree that these aren't the same positions. I think most people in Buffalo would prefer that Kelsay be playing Left Off Team this year, but he has looked better in his new spot.

Chris Kelsay is in no way suited to be a linebacker.

That's an awful position fit.

Dwan Edwards played 400 snaps for your team last year....he's part of the problem, not part of the solution.

It really doesn't matter where you guys line these players up, they suck.

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

You can't count Dwan Edwards or Kelsay as not returning just because they're moving to different positions.

Garbage is still garbage even if it's rearranged garbage.

FYI, we are going to be running right at Dwan Edwards and Kelsay with our best run blockers. That's a bad matchup for you guys.

You're going to be running both left, and right, at the same time?

Well, given the run defense last year, that was actually possible. We hope to be improved though.