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Old 09-07-2011, 10:54 AM   #1
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Pioli gets a B+ because he turned the Chiefs around faster than any of us thought he would.
Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:06 AM   #2
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Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
IMO that is a very real possibility.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:08 AM   #3
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Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
I can honestly see that happening with this schedule, and this QB. But, even at 7-9, it is heading in the right direction with all this young talent.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:10 AM   #4
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I can honestly see that happening with this schedule, and this QB. But, even at 7-9, it is heading in the right direction with all this young talent.
IMO 7-9 is not heading in the right direction (barring unforeseen injuries).
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I can honestly see that happening with this schedule, and this QB. But, even at 7-9, it is heading in the right direction with all this young talent.
If this team has as much talent as some of you claim (not specifically you, Ed) this team should win at least 9 games.

You can't ignore the schedule in 2010 and then use it as an excuse in 2011.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:14 AM   #6
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If this team has as much talent as some of you claim (not specifically you, Ed) this team should win at least 9 games.

You can't ignore the schedule in 2010 and then use it as an excuse in 2011.
Exactly. I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:17 AM   #7
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I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
This. A million times this.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:18 AM   #8
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This. A million times this.
Agreed...
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:33 AM   #9
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Exactly. I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
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Agreed...
this is the biggest twisted piece of crap ever

'good' is an extremely relative term

Houston is a good team but saying that winning against them is the same as winning against the Steelers is just plain stupid.

every year in the NFL there are 8 or so elite teams that will get their wins no matter what. There are also around 8 crappy teams that aren't going to make it regardless. The rest of the teams in the league have their win/loss record go up and down based on SOS.

So technically yes "good teams win no matter what" but only the elite type teams.

There is huge grey area around that statement.

The Chiefs are NOT elite yet so they can still be a better team than last year and have a worse record because of their SOS.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:21 AM   #10
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Exactly. I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
It was not meant as an excuse, sorry you took it that way.

If you think this team is good enough, and are far enough along for the schedule not to matter, I do not. They got 4 wins last year, that could be 4 losses this year.

Are they headed in the right direction? Yes, but they are sure not elite yet.

They are not Pittsburgh, New England, San Diego, or Green Bay.

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Old 09-07-2011, 11:23 AM   #11
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It was not meant as an excuse, sorry you took it that way.

If you think this team is good enough, and are far enough along for the schedule not to matter, I do not. They got 4 wins last year, that could be 4 losses this year.

Are they headed in the right direction? Yes, but they are sure not elite yet.

They are not Pittsburgh, New England, San Diego, or Green Bay.

the only real difference is at QB....but we're not supposed to talk about that


point is, as milkman said, this season comes down to Cassel...if he's the superstar that reerun and that weirdo pats fan says he is, then we're fine...
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:35 AM   #12
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the only real difference is at QB....but we're not supposed to talk about that


point is, as milkman said, this season comes down to Cassel...if he's the superstar that reerun and that weirdo pats fan says he is, then we're fine...
Agreed, and as per my previous posts, I went back and put Cassel in stars on the post you quoted.

If only he could play like he did in Seattle last year, that was almost like a fantasy coming true. The team was obviously there all along, Cassel was clearly the difference.

I must admit though, he looked pretty good up in Green Bay after a couple series. Bowe was just sick though, catching everything in the general area.
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point is, as milkman said, this season comes down to Cassel...if he's the superstar that reerun and that weirdo pats fan says he is, then we're fine...

Holy shit this day just gets better and better...

Now Cassel is superstar? Oh please please find the post where I have said this...

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If this team has as much talent as some of you claim (not specifically you, Ed) this team should win at least 9 games.

You can't ignore the schedule in 2010 and then use it as an excuse in 2011.
The schedule was very soft last year, anyone that says different has their head buried in the sand.

Give me the NFC West every year please, 40% of the team's win total. They may not win a single game against the NFC this year, it would not surprise me.

So that right there could be the difference between 10-6 and 6-10.
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The schedule was very soft last year, anyone that says different has their head buried in the sand.

Give me the NFC West every year please, 40% of the team's win total. They may not win a single game against the NFC this year, it would not surprise me.

So that right there could be the difference between 10-6 and 6-10.
As NJ said, good teams beat other good teams.

If this team has as much talent as some people think, and are "turned around" as others think, there's no reason to win fewer than 9 games.
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