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Old 09-13-2011, 01:39 PM  
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PFF Grades the Chiefs

A few highlights:

1. The entire offensive line graded out positively in pass protection. Asamoah got dinged for a sack. Albert and Lilja had the highest grades in pass protection.

2. Our run blocking was not as good. Lilja, Wiegmann and Richardson had highly negative grades in run blocking.

3. Thomas Jones and Le'Ron McClain only played 3 snaps.

4. Kelly Gregg and Glenn Dorsey sucked. Negative grades, especially Gregg in run defense.

5. Kendrick Lewis was the worst player on the field. Primarily because of his awful run defense.

6. Justin Houston - 37 snaps. Allen Bailey - 27 snaps. Cameron Sheffield - 35 snaps. They're not ****ing around with the young guys.

7. Interestingly enough, Houston only rushed 3 times. There's something wrong with the scheme when Houston is rushing 3 times and Tyson Jackson is rushing 11.

8. Cassel dropped back 5 times "under pressure." 0 completions, 3 attempts. 2 sacks.

9. Jon McGraw, Sabby Piscitelli, Kendrick Lewis: Targeted eight times, allowed eight catches for 117 yards.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:16 PM   #106
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Chiefs run a lot of screens
None of them very successfully.

It's tough to run a screen when no one respects your down field passing game and most of the defenders are near the line of scrimmage.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:26 PM   #107
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More proof that our pass blocking was quite good last week.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/9...he-o-line-tape

He gives Richardson 7 pressures and still scores him a 91 in pass blocking???
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He probably has a loose definition of pressure. Doesn't mean Richardson was getting beaten.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:39 PM   #109
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More proof that our pass blocking was quite good last week.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/9...he-o-line-tape

The problem is a pressure on Cassel might as well be a sack. Cassel has major issues with accuracy when pressure is around, while the pressure may not result in a loss of yards it seems to me it most often results in an incompletion. I'd be interested in knowing how many passes he completed on those 10 pressures.
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PFF and that guy have a different idea of pressure, but on PFF's grading Cassel was 0-3 with 2 sacks under pressure.
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Id like to see his overall completion percentage while under pressure for all games he has started.

I bet its one of the worst in league history...at least recent history.
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It's pretty tough to give a QB a negative for a play on which he completes a pass.
If he completes it for negative yardage, dock him. If its a 3rd down situation and he throws short of the first down, dock him. If he checks down with a wide open receiver down the field, dock him. Its not that hard.
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If he completes it for negative yardage, dock him. If its a 3rd down situation and he throws short of the first down, dock him. If he checks down with a wide open receiver down the field, dock him. Its not that hard.
That's being a little too biased, though.

You don't know if the play call was designed for him to throw it short, and you can't see the receivers down the field.

As far as negative yardage, you can't really penalize a QB for a screen getting blown up.
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Id like to see his overall completion percentage while under pressure for all games he has started.

I bet its one of the worst in league history...at least recent history.
Here is Cassel's under pressure split from last year.



As far as I can tell from looking at a few other QBs, that far of a drop isn't remarkable.
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Cassel plays like a kid who's been hit by his abusive dad for years. Someone cocks a fist and he goes into the fetal position.
He did play behind one of the worst O-Lines in NFL history his first year here.



After that kind of trama he would probably be scared shitless behind our 03-04 offensive line.
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That's being a little too biased, though.

You don't know if the play call was designed for him to throw it short, and you can't see the receivers down the field.

As far as negative yardage, you can't really penalize a QB for a screen getting blown up.
If you're really studying the plays its not biased at all. If you check down to a receiver behind the line who has players in front of him, throw it away. If a play takes too long to develop part of that is on the QB. Check Down does not have the ability to go through his progressions. If his guy isn't open, he's going short.
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He did play behind one of the worst O-Lines in NFL history his first year here.



After that kind of trama he would probably be scared shitless behind our 03-04 offensive line.
He caused a lot of his own problems by holding on to the ball way too long.
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Here are the no pressure/under pressure differences for the starters last season. These are not organized, I just went down the list by overall rating.

Matt Ryan - 66.8 - 52.7
Peyton Manning - 69.9 - 54.5
Philip Rivers - 71.7 - 52.8
Aaron Rodgers - 71.4 - 49.3
Drew Brees - 72.0 - 55.7
Matt Schaub - 70.3 - 45.1
Michael Vick - 70.5 - 44.3
Ben Roethlisberger - 65.3 - 51.7
Josh Freeman - 67.1 - 50.9
Tom Brady - 70.1 - 53.2
Eli Manning - 70.0 - 44.7
Carson Palmer - 64.6 - 52.8
David Garrard - 70.9 - 50.4
Joe Flacco - 68.5 - 46.9
Shaun Hill - 66.6 - 47.6
Jay Cutler - 63.2 - 52.2
Chad Henne - 67.8 - 41.5
Matt Cassel - 64.3 - 43.4
Sam Bradford - 66.9 - 43.4
Jason Campbell - 63.0 - 50.9
Kyle Orton - 62.2 - 49.2
Mark Sanchez - 62.0 - 35.5
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 65.2 - 39.2
Matt Hasselbeck - 61.4 - 53.7
Colt McCoy - 66.1 - 41.7
Jon Kitna - 67.3 - 59.0
Kerry Collins - 62.7 - 45.9
Donovan McNabb - 67.5 - 41.8
Alex Smith - 67.8 - 41.5
Brett Favre - 66.3 - 47.3
Jimmy Clausen - 57.3 - 39.0
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Looks like Sanchez is the king of shitting his pants under pressure .
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Here are the no pressure/under pressure differences for the starters last season. These are not organized, I just went down the list by overall rating.
Matt Ryan - 66.8 - 52.7
Peyton Manning - 69.9 - 54.5Philip Rivers - 71.7 - 52.8
Aaron Rodgers - 71.4 - 49.3
Drew Brees - 72.0 - 55.7
Matt Schaub - 70.3 - 45.1
Michael Vick - 70.5 - 44.3
Ben Roethlisberger - 65.3 - 51.7
Josh Freeman - 67.1 - 50.9
Tom Brady - 70.1 - 53.2
Eli Manning - 70.0 - 44.7
Carson Palmer - 64.6 - 52.8
David Garrard - 70.9 - 50.4
Joe Flacco - 68.5 - 46.9
Shaun Hill - 66.6 - 47.6
Jay Cutler - 63.2 - 52.2
Chad Henne - 67.8 - 41.5
Matt Cassel - 64.3 - 43.4
Sam Bradford - 66.9 - 43.4
Jason Campbell - 63.0 - 50.9
Kyle Orton - 62.2 - 49.2
Mark Sanchez - 62.0 - 35.5
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 65.2 - 39.2
Matt Hasselbeck - 61.4 - 53.7
Colt McCoy - 66.1 - 41.7
Jon Kitna - 67.3 - 59.0
Kerry Collins - 62.7 - 45.9
Donovan McNabb - 67.5 - 41.8
Alex Smith - 67.8 - 41.5
Brett Favre - 66.3 - 47.3
Jimmy Clausen - 57.3 - 39.0
Wow. This post just pissed me off! This says that there is almost no other QB in the league who is as bad as Ryan Fitzpatrick under pressure. The Chiefs decided not to go after him...

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