Chiefs Another GM/HC Poll

**luv** · 09-19-2011, 12:38 PM

I've been seeing some very mixed opinions on Pioli and Haley. I thought most people liked both. I've seen some definite...I won't say hatred.....disliking for one or the other or both.

Regardless of QB, which category do you fall in?

Like Pioli and Haley
Like Pioli, but don't like Haley
Don't like Pioli, but like Haley
Don't like Pioli or Haley

Poll to follow....

**HemiEd** · 09-19-2011, 12:44 PM

I hate Cassel, and have from the beginning. So I guess that puts Pioli out, but he is going nowhere, so we are just ****ed.

Go Royals!

Hoover · 09-19-2011, 12:48 PM

Plenty of fault with Pioli, but he's not the problem.

BigCatDaddy · 09-19-2011, 12:50 PM

I'm probably higher on Haley then Pioli at the moment. It's just tough unless you know how much input or control Haley has of what is going on. The switch the 3-4 was a bad idea, trying to make Cassell into a starting QB was a bad idea, not addressing the NT position after switching to a 3-4 was a bad idea and the 2009 draft needs to die in an AIDS infested fire which stars Tyson Jackson.

jspchief · 09-19-2011, 12:55 PM

I did not care for the Haley hire, but I think last year earned him his 4 years. I do feel the O coordinator situation needs fixed, and I may change my mind on him surviving the 4 years if things continue at this pace.

I loved the Pioli hire, but haven't seen a lot to sell me on the job he's doing. I'm a little skeptical on all the crap that comes out about him in the press and on BBs, but the more smoke I see, the more I think there's fire.

Hoover · 09-19-2011, 01:00 PM

Like it or not, Cassel was probably the best option for the Chiefs in 2009. It didn't work out, and seems like Pioli knows that. While he could have drafted Sanchez or Freeman, I don't know if either of them are a franchise QB yet.

I think a lot of this stems from Clark waiting to fire Carl, Herm, and the staff, putting Pioli in a difficult spot.

**The Franchise** · 09-19-2011, 01:01 PM

Clean out the entire thing.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-19-2011, 01:01 PM

Well, I was higher on Haley than Pioli, but that was when I thought Haley had grown as a HC and quit making dumb decisions.

Sadly, he hasn't grown and still makes boneheaded decisions on a regular basis.

His time management is as piss-poor as Herm Edwards', he apparently has no concept of how the challenge system works and he's regularly making stupid decisions like yesterday's impossible to defend deferring of the opening kickoff. That was as stupid a decision as running a fake punt on 4th and 8 from your own 28 and the intended receiver is the ****ing long snapper.

Ultimately, there's no one in the organization that is safe from blame right now. From ownership all the way down.

Chiefnj2 · 09-19-2011, 01:02 PM

Pioli can get out with Haley after sitting on 60 million the last two years.

View Poll Results: REGARDLESS OF QB, which option best describes you?
Like Pioli and Haley	5	22.73%
Like Pioli, but don't like Haley	4	18.18%
Don't like Pioli, but like Haley	9	40.91%
Don't like Pioli or Haley	4	18.18%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

09-19-2011, 12:38 PM
luv MY LITTLE #15 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $6009600	Another GM/HC Poll I've been seeing some very mixed opinions on Pioli and Haley. I thought most people liked both. I've seen some definite...I won't say hatred.....disliking for one or the other or both. *Regardless of QB*, which category do you fall in? Like Pioli and Haley Like Pioli, but don't like Haley Don't like Pioli, but like Haley Don't like Pioli or Haley Poll to follow....
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09-19-2011, 12:44 PM	#2
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $2860564	I hate Cassel, and have from the beginning. So I guess that puts Pioli out, but he is going nowhere, so we are just ****ed. Go Royals!
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09-19-2011, 12:48 PM	#3
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1268179	Plenty of fault with Pioli, but he's not the problem.
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09-19-2011, 12:50 PM	#4
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $1609122	I'm probably higher on Haley then Pioli at the moment. It's just tough unless you know how much input or control Haley has of what is going on. The switch the 3-4 was a bad idea, trying to make Cassell into a starting QB was a bad idea, not addressing the NT position after switching to a 3-4 was a bad idea and the 2009 draft needs to die in an AIDS infested fire which stars Tyson Jackson.
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09-19-2011, 12:55 PM	#5
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I did not care for the Haley hire, but I think last year earned him his 4 years. I do feel the O coordinator situation needs fixed, and I may change my mind on him surviving the 4 years if things continue at this pace. I loved the Pioli hire, but haven't seen a lot to sell me on the job he's doing. I'm a little skeptical on all the crap that comes out about him in the press and on BBs, but the more smoke I see, the more I think there's fire. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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09-19-2011, 01:00 PM	#6
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1268179	Like it or not, Cassel was probably the best option for the Chiefs in 2009. It didn't work out, and seems like Pioli knows that. While he could have drafted Sanchez or Freeman, I don't know if either of them are a franchise QB yet. I think a lot of this stems from Clark waiting to fire Carl, Herm, and the staff, putting Pioli in a difficult spot.
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09-19-2011, 01:01 PM	#7
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2685047	Clean out the entire thing.
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09-19-2011, 01:01 PM	#8
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4731115	Well, I was higher on Haley than Pioli, but that was when I thought Haley had grown as a HC and quit making dumb decisions. Sadly, he hasn't grown and still makes boneheaded decisions on a regular basis. His time management is as piss-poor as Herm Edwards', he apparently has no concept of how the challenge system works and he's regularly making stupid decisions like yesterday's impossible to defend deferring of the opening kickoff. That was as stupid a decision as running a fake punt on 4th and 8 from your own 28 and the intended receiver is the ****ing long snapper. Ultimately, there's no one in the organization that is safe from blame right now. From ownership all the way down.
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09-19-2011, 01:02 PM	#9
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7813688	Pioli can get out with Haley after sitting on 60 million the last two years. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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