QBs other than Luck

[Chiefnj2]

In the event the Sea Hawks suckitude exceeds that of the Chiefs:

I'm adding Griffin the hottest QB in the nation right now (9/26/11). The kid has more TD passes than incompletions.



Nick Foles


Matt Barkley


Landry Jones


Ryan Lindley


Brandon Weeden

[Chiefnj2]

[Chiefnj2]

We had Foles v. Ok. State in 2011. Now here is Tannehill:

[jd1020]

Jones is my choice.

Barkley throws off his back foot too much for my liking.

The rest I don't even care about because I want a 1st round QB and not a best of the rest.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Barkley looked exactly like Cassel in this film, and it wasn't just because he was wearing number 7.

He responds to pressure the same; he makes the same mental mistakes, and I don't think he has an NFL arm.

[Chiefnj2]

Probably not a first round prospect, but he kind of has the "it" factor - Chandler Harnish

[jd1020]

Kiper's board has Luck #1, Jones #4, Barkley #10 with RG3 somewhere mid-late first.

[suds79]

Now that Luck is out of the picture, put me on the RG3 bandwagon.

We all know his skills he brings to the table. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders also.

I like this kid.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Kiper's board has Luck #1, Jones #4, Barkley #10 with RG3 somewhere mid-late first.

Finally I hear a projection on RG3. Previously I had no idea where he was going.

I was on the Suck for Luck bandwagon. Since that is dead & buried, this is more enjoyable.

We need to win to fall in RG3's range to get him.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by suds79

Finally I hear a projection on RG3. Previously I had no idea where he was going.

I was on the Suck for Luck bandwagon. Since that is dead & buried, this is more enjoyable.

We need to win to fall in RG3's range to get him.

I wouldn't be shocked if hes there in the 2nd if we really wanted him.

I can only see 3 teams as a lock for drafting a QB in the first. Miami, Seattle and Denver.

Now if the Colts or Vikings get the #1 pick then that changes things up a bit because I can see them taking Luck and then those other teams picking their favorite QB amongst Barkley, Jones, and RG3. If the Rams get the #1 pick it wont change much because they will either trade the pick to either Miami, Seattle, or Denver or they will trade Bradford to them.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by suds79

Now that Luck is out of the picture, put me on the RG3 bandwagon.

We all know his skills he brings to the table. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders also.

I like this kid.

Same here. Jones and Foles both seem a bit system dependant to me. RGiii has a great background. I'm not much for running QB's, but the more I read, the more I like him.

He comes from a military family, both parents are career Air Force. Born in Japan, they moved back to the US and settled in Texas. RGiii graduated highschool early, 5th in his class. At 17, he then started college early, has since graduated, and is now working on his Masters degree. Add that to the extensive playing experience he has and taking the leadership role of starting QB of that team at such a young age. He has a very very strong arm, Vick like, is very accurate, and makes good decisions.

To me, his only red flag is the fact that he's running QB, which I usually don't like. This guy though, has a good head on his shoulders and should be smart enough not to run too much, or depend on his athleticism so much that he neglects to learn his job ala Vick.

I'm all for him. If it ain't a QB in round 1, NT, ILB, and OL would be the only real justifiable pickups. I'd still be pissed though. This team needs a QB WAY too much.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Same here. Jones and Foles both seem a bit system dependant to me. RGiii has a great background. I'm not much for running QB's, but the more I read, the more I like him.

He comes from a military family, both parents are career Air Force. Born in Japan, they moved back to the US and settled in Texas. RGiii graduated highschool early, 5th in his class. At 17, he then started college early, has since graduated, and is now working on his Masters degree. Add that to the extensive playing experience he has and taking the leadership role of starting QB of that team at such a young age. He has a very very strong arm, Vick like, is very accurate, and makes good decisions.

To me, his only red flag is the fact that he's running QB, which I usually don't like. This guy though, has a good head on his shoulders and should be smart enough not to run too much, or depend on his athleticism so much that he neglects to learn his job ala Vick.

I'm all for him. If it ain't a QB in round 1, NT, ILB, and OL would be the only real justifiable pickups. I'd still be pissed though. This team needs a QB WAY too much.

From what I've seen of RGIII he is always looking downfield after breaking the pocket before electing to run. I think this kid has the goods. I wish I could see more snaps where he has to go through progressions and read defenses however.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Same here. Jones and Foles both seem a bit system dependant to me. RGiii has a great background. I'm not much for running QB's, but the more I read, the more I like him.

He comes from a military family, both parents are career Air Force. Born in Japan, they moved back to the US and settled in Texas. RGiii graduated highschool early, 5th in his class. At 17, he then started college early, has since graduated, and is now working on his Masters degree. Add that to the extensive playing experience he has and taking the leadership role of starting QB of that team at such a young age. He has a very very strong arm, Vick like, is very accurate, and makes good decisions.

To me, his only red flag is the fact that he's running QB, which I usually don't like. This guy though, has a good head on his shoulders and should be smart enough not to run too much, or depend on his athleticism so much that he neglects to learn his job ala Vick.

I'm all for him. If it ain't a QB in round 1, NT, ILB, and OL would be the only real justifiable pickups. I'd still be pissed though. This team needs a QB WAY too much.

I think he's much more of a passer than you give him credit for. He's very accurate and has a lively arm.

The big red flag for me is the system he's in. I hate it from a developmental standpoint but I suppose that's the norm now a days. They run a bunch of spread, quick hitter, hitch routes as he picks the open guy 7-8 yards sitting down in the zone.

At least he's very consistent in hitting them and gets a lot of practice throwing the ball. Completes around 80%

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[jd1020]

Originally Posted by suds79

I think he's much more of a passer than you give him credit for. He's very accurate and has a lively arm.

The big red flag for me is the system he's in. I hate it from a developmental standpoint but I suppose that's the norm now a days. They run a bunch of spread, quick hitter, hitch routes as he picks the open guy 7-8 yards sitting down in the zone.

At least he's very consistent in hitting them and gets a lot of practice throwing the ball. Completes around 80%

All of those quick hitters pad that completion %. He has good touch on his medium-deep throws which makes for a very catchable ball but when he has to put a little mustard on them they start going wild. When he runs he carries the ball so loosely that hes a turnover waiting to happen. That shit aint gonna fly in the NFL.

He's fun to watch in college because hes a play maker, but I don't see NFL franchise when I watch him play.

Though, If the big 3 are all gone, and Pioli wants to take a stab on the guy based on his athleticism and smarts I wouldn't hate it. But I don't think I'd draft him before #15.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by jd1020

All of those quick hitters pad that completion %. He has good touch on his medium-deep throws which makes for a very catchable ball but when he has to put a little mustard on them they start going wild. When he runs he carries the ball so loosely that hes a turnover waiting to happen. That shit aint gonna fly in the NFL.

He's fun to watch in college because hes a play maker, but I don't see NFL franchise when I watch him play.

Though, If the big 3 are all gone, and Pioli wants to take a stab on the guy based on his athleticism and smarts I wouldn't hate it. But I don't think I'd draft him before #15.

Yea, I'm not salivating over his completion percentage. I'm looking at the fact that the dude throws accurately all over the field and has a cannon. He might need a couple years to adjust to the NFL and learn a real system, but he will be worth it, imo.