It's Raider Week

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by BossChief

For a first rounder?

Are you saying you think it was a good pick?

He is a great kicker, but I wouldn't give up a first rounder if it meant I would get the leagues best kicker AND punter.

You can get really good kickers in the 5th round.

At the time we got Jano, we had Chucky and had just beat the Chiefs to knock them out of the playoffs 99 I think... and if I recall the Raiders had lost a few games by 3 points or less... and that was the story.

We had Joe Nedney at the time and he was one of the best in the NFL then, but he was demanding big money and thats when they got Seabass

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by R8ers

At the time we got Jano, we had Chucky and had just beat the Chiefs to knock them out of the playoffs 99 I think... and if I recall the Raiders had lost a few games by 3 points or less... and that was the story.

We had Joe Nedney at the time and he was one of the best in the NFL then, but he was demanding big money and thats when they got Seabass

haha

So, your kicker was demanding big money so you guys decided not to sign him and to spend a first rounder on a kicker instead.

Makes sense, in a raider kind of way.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by BossChief

haha

So, your kicker was demanding big money so you guys decided not to sign him and to spend a first rounder on a kicker instead.

Makes sense, in a raider kind of way.

Yea the next 3 years we went
12-4
10-6
11-5

Makes sense to me

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by R8ers

Yea the next 3 years we went
12-4
10-6
11-5

Makes sense to me

Rich Gannon not the kicker.

To think otherwise is beyond silly.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Rich Gannon not the kicker.

To think otherwise is beyond silly.

It's a team sport

[Bacillus Anthracis]

Originally Posted by R8ers

At the time we got Jano, we had Chucky and had just beat the Chiefs to knock them out of the playoffs 99 I think... and if I recall the Raiders had lost a few games by 3 points or less... and that was the story.

We had Joe Nedney at the time and he was one of the best in the NFL then, but he was demanding big money and thats when they got Seabass

I remember that season well. We lost 8 games by a total of 34 points. Cole Ford missed a game winner in Denver from inside 30 yards, two against Tennessee in a 3 point loss. He also missed four against the Jets in a 6 point loss.

With just an average kicker the Raiders would have won that division going away.

The numbers don't lie. Since Janokowski has been drafted he's been the most consistent and productive player on the team. He's scored over 1200 points. And maybe someone can point out a player from that draft that we should have taken that would have played at a Pro Bowl level in any position and would still be playing today.

Good luck with that. I won't hold my breath.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by Bacillus Anthracis

I remember that season well. We lost 8 games by a total of 34 points. Cole Ford missed a game winner in Denver from inside 30 yards, two against Tennessee in a 3 point loss. He also missed four against the Jets in a 6 point loss.

With just an average kicker the Raiders would have won that division going away.

The numbers don't lie. Since Janokowski has been drafted he's been the most consistent and productive player on the team. He's scored over 1200 points. And maybe someone can point out a player from that draft that we should have taken that would have played at a Pro Bowl level in any position and would still be playing today.

Good luck with that. I won't hold my breath.

Think Husted got hurt or shit canned and we brought in Nedney that yr

[Ugly Duck]

Chiefs @ Raiders sold out

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs @ Raiders sold out

well happy birthday chokeland! been a while, ehh?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Bacillus Anthracis

I remember that season well. We lost 8 games by a total of 34 points. Cole Ford missed a game winner in Denver from inside 30 yards, two against Tennessee in a 3 point loss. He also missed four against the Jets in a 6 point loss.

With just an average kicker the Raiders would have won that division going away.

The numbers don't lie. Since Janokowski has been drafted he's been the most consistent and productive player on the team. He's scored over 1200 points. And maybe someone can point out a player from that draft that we should have taken that would have played at a Pro Bowl level in any position and would still be playing today.

Good luck with that. I won't hold my breath.

it was a bad pick by oakland, period. Arguably, the best player on your team is Lechler, check out his probowls.

seabass, not so much.

you can argue about it all you want but there's simply no excuse for taking a kicker in the first round. None. That move was all crazy al. Too bad he's dead because he was batschit crazy.