2011 Draft Class This Year

[Direckshun]

Grade each pick best as you can.

Then provide the grade for the overall draft.

1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin

2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson

3rd round: OLB Justin Houston

3rd round: DE Allen Bailey

4th round: CB Jalil Brown

5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi

5th round: OLB Gabe Miller

6th round: NT Jerrell Powe

7th round: FB Shane Bannon

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Berry was a 'smart' pick; took the consensus guy.

McCluster is a useless POS that should never EVER have been drafted where he was. There is no greater example of getting 'cute' and ****ing your franchise.

Arenas is a nickle-corner and punt returner; a 4th round value we took in the 2nd - that's called getting too cute. Conventional wisdom has them taking Terrance Cody there - you really want to beat your chest over this pick?

Moeaki, well what do ya know? The injury prone guy is injured. And Hernandez (who went after him) was universally considered a higher value pick. Ultimately, I'd rather have Hernandez and by a fair margin. Hell, Jimmy Graham was considered a 2nd or 3rd rounder and we passed on him for Moeaki. Most folks had him around the 3rd best TE w/ Moeaki barely slipping inside the top 10. Uh...oops.

Asomoah was another 'value' pick; they just played the board and took a guy with a late 1st, early 2nd value in the 3rd round. A calm, rational pick.

Lewis is an okay safety they got in the late rounds. He was a decent scouting pick and about the only time I can remember the Chiefs leaving the board and not getting burned for it.

Once again, every time these guys try to prove how smart they are, they end up doing something amazingly stupid. If we'd have just 'played the board' we'd have Butler instead of McCluster, Cody instead of Arenas and Graham/Hernandez instead of Moeaki. Oh yeah, and we'd still have Asomoah and Berry.

We drafted McCluster to be our Darren Sproles... If you've watched any Saints games this year then that pick would be warranted. Some players don't live up to their draft position. That's the NFL. McCluster is only half way through his second season, it is too early to give up on him.

Javier Arenas is one of the better nickle CB's in the league, and considering how this is a passing league i'm all for the pick. And not to mention he is 3rd in the league in punt returns on players who have returned at least 10. And that's pretty remarkable considering his long is only 37.

You are brain dead if you would rather play Aaron Hernandez over a healthy Moeaki. He is way more complete then Hernandez or Jimmy Graham. Those two belong only in passing situations.

Terrance Cody was screaming bust. He weighed in at 370 at Alabama's media day.. He hasn't exactly been the dominant NT we have been needing anyways

I don't think it's out of the question that we have been in the top 5 drafting teams the last 2 years.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I don't think it's out of the question that we have been in the top 5 drafting teams the last 2 years.

Agree 100%. 10 solid contributors in 2 drafts is very, very good. Not every pick has to be a "Superstar" or 10 year starter to be considered valuable. If the Chiefs had a top 10 QB and all our starters were healthy, we would be right in the hunt.

[Dave Lane]

I think if we can get a couple more drafts like the last 2 and we will be approaching a championship team IF we get a quality QB.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by SNR

1st round: WR Johnny Baldwin- A. People forget that the trade down was a part of this as well. This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC.

2nd round: OG/C Rodney Hudson- A. Dude appears to be rocking it, even if it's still at guard and not center. I have no problems with just taking good players especially if we need them at certain positions.

3rd round: OLB Justin Houston- B+. Great value when he was taken. I think we all knew he'd take some time getting used to the pro game

3rd round: DE Allen Bailey- B+. Country Strong had a great game against Pittsburgh. It looks like he can be the future for us on the defensive line if we don't re-sign Dorsey. I almost kinda sorta hope we don't now. Bailey is growing into his role

4th round: CB Jalil Brown- D. I was lukewarm about Brown on draft day, and now I'm thinking this was a terrible pick. We already had enough try-hard-do-it-on-special-teams defensive backs on the team and didn't need another one. He has a low ceiling and will probably never be more than a 3rd corner for us.

5th round: QB Ricky Stanzi- A. I loved this pick now and I still do. Too bad Haley hated it.

5th round: OLB Gabe Miller- C-. I should give this one an incomplete. It was a wtf pick when it happened, but he was doing alright in training camp before he got injured. No clue what will happen to him. From what I hear, we were using him on the inside, which is a place where he could excel for us.

6th round: NT Jerrell Powe- C-. In the same boat as Stanzi. He's apparently got a future with this team, but the coaching staff treats him like chopped liver. If/when Gregg finally dies with his dinosaur friends, we're going to be stuck with an unknown. Not ready to hand the keys over to someone like that, we'll draft a NT and Powe will struggle to get playing time of any sort for the rest of his short career. Unfortunate to see that kind of potential go to waste

7th round: FB Shane Bannon- F-. ****ing stupid pick.

?????????????? Baldwin was as you said "This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC."

What about Berry? Is he not at the caliber of Baldwin? Or did you just forget about him? That comment was a head scratcher along with giving Stanzi who had yet to suit up before two weeks ago and has yet to play an "A"

[Hammock Parties]

Standards have fallen if we're handing out A's and B+ for Jon Baldwin and Allen Bailey, who have both had one good game apiece.

Baldwin - C
Hudson - B
Houston - C
Bailey - D

Not gonna grade guys who aren't really playing. If Brown isn't in the rotation at corner next year he's a big fat F. Same for Powe at NT.

[Nightfyre]

The only standards that are slipping here are the quality of gochiefs posts. How they manage to continue to fall is beyond me.

[Hammock Parties]

You are going to be so butthurt when Haley is fired.

[Nightfyre]

Not really. I think he will ultimately be a good head coach, but that doesn't mean there aren't other potentially good head coaches out there. Another difference is that, I am confident that Pioli will make a good selection for a new head coach if it comes to that. He seems to understand the value of leadership, and I'm confident he would be looking for someone who is all about team-building. (IE not McDaniels.)

[Hammock Parties]

Haley probably won't even be coaching in the NFL next season, unless he accepts a WR coaching position.

[LiveSteam]

Dam & again
TGFTMM

[O.city]

Its hard to grade a wr when our punter could throw him a more accurate pass than the qbs we have had.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by tredadda

?????????????? Baldwin was as you said "This pick was the lone bright spot of Pioli's GM tenure in KC."

What about Berry? Is he not at the caliber of Baldwin? Or did you just forget about him? That comment was a head scratcher along with giving Stanzi who had yet to suit up before two weeks ago and has yet to play an "A"

I mean the entire trade down. Getting Justin Houston AND Jon Baldwin for one 1st round pick was great ****ing GMing.

I've said here all along that Pioli doesn't get credit for the Berry pick. Eric Berry was a no ****ing brainer. He was the consensus best player available for the Chiefs. The fans, media, and draftniks all agreed.

The only more obvious pick would be if the Chiefs had the #1 overall this year and chose Andrew Luck.

[JCharles1981]

How can anyone rate Stanzi above an I? He has not played in a single Chiefs' regular season game. Also, you can't rate his overall performance based on games he played in (preseason) that aren't crucial to whether or not the team makes the playoffs.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Baldwin: B+. He's played like an A when on the field, but you can't miss half the season due to one who sucks the penisy and not get docked.

Hudson: B+. He looked really good last week, but why could he beat out Lilja or Wiegmann? Both suck.

Houston: B. Had a great game last week, but had been pretty nondescript the rest of the year.

Bailey: B-. I was one of his biggest fans, but he's done essentially nothing aside from last week.

Brown: C-. Fourth round backup corner playing special teams. Not surprising. He has potential to be a solid rotational player.

Stanzi: C. He's the Rich Scanlon of QBs around these parts. At least he made the team.

Miller: F. Terrible value, has contributed nothing. 2011's Colin Brown.

Powe: B. Tremendous value, NTs don't get it right away, especially when they can't read.

Bannon: F. 2011's Jake O'Connell pick, but apparently he doesn't swallow as well. One of the most hateable 7th round selections in team history, simply for his "Bro" look.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Baldwin: B+. He's played like an A when on the field, but you can't miss half the season due to one who sucks the penisy and not get docked.

Hudson: B+. He looked really good last week, but why could he beat out Lilja or Wiegmann? Both suck.

Houston: B. Had a great game last week, but had been pretty nondescript the rest of the year.

Bailey: B-. I was one of his biggest fans, but he's done essentially nothing aside from last week.

Brown: C-. Fourth round backup corner playing special teams. Not surprising. He has potential to be a solid rotational player.

Stanzi: C. He's the Rich Scanlon of QBs around these parts. At least he made the team.

Miller: F. Terrible value, has contributed nothing. 2011's Colin Brown.

Powe: B. Tremendous value, NTs don't get it right away, especially when they can't read.

Bannon: F. 2011's Jake O'Connell pick, but apparently he doesn't swallow as well. One of the most hateable 7th round selections in team history, simply for his "Bro" look.

I'm kind of surprised you're being lenient for this year, now year three or four I'd change my grades but as of now this class is generally underwhelming.