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Old 12-01-2011, 09:14 PM  
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:12 PM   #91
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Barkley isnt gonna drop into the 20s and be given 3 years to sit and adjust.

Look, if we are sitting at 2nd overall....Im taking Barkley and the pick would be made in less than 1 minute as I would run the card up myself.

Im just trying to have a conversation about his negatives and see what the responses are and how people perceive some of his flaws (if we want to call them that)
So what you're saying is that if Rodgers didn't get the chance to sit for 3 years.....that he wouldn't have been able to adjust to the winter games?

Seriously?
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:12 PM   #92
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no, him playing in California means nothing, it is ****ing stupid

I mean look what happened to Rodgers in Green Bay...sometimes he can't even throw because he's too busy holding a cup of hot chocolate to warm his California hands...
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get a grip

Aaron Rogers had 3 ****ing years to practice and adjust to the difference in playing conditions.

Nobody will ever know what would have happened if he was let loose as a rookie in those conditions...we do know what happened to his predecessors who did.

If you want to just cover your eyes and act like he is perfect in every way, fine.

I will chose to be objective and bring up points to talk about that are very valid.

Him having never thrown (or pump fake, or take a shotgun snap or secure the ball while taking a sack) a frozen football is one of them.
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:14 PM   #93
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So what you're saying is that if Rodgers didn't get the chance to sit for 3 years.....that he wouldn't have been able to adjust to the winter games?

Seriously?
not at all, Im just saying that we have no sample size to show us how he responds to those conditions...
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:16 PM   #94
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and does it work the other way?

are college QBs from Michigan avoided by pro-teams in California?

too sweaty to hold onto the ball or something?
thats just reeruned
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:17 PM   #95
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get a grip

Aaron Rogers had 3 ****ing years to practice and adjust to the difference in playing conditions.

Nobody will ever know what would have happened if he was let loose as a rookie in those conditions...we do know what happened to his predecessors who did.

If you want to just cover your eyes and act like he is perfect in every way, fine.

I will chose to be objective and bring up points to talk about that are very valid.

Him having never thrown (or pump fake, or take a shotgun snap or secure the ball while taking a sack) a frozen football is one of them.

this is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard....playing in California is now a knock against football players...because they've never experienced cold weather...

it is straight up reeruned...

I expect to read a lot of scouting reports this year that mention this, right?
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Nobody will ever know what would have happened if he was let loose as a rookie in those conditions...we do know what happened to his predecessors who did.
You mean Brett Favre? Who played at Ole Miss and spent his first year in Atlanata before taking over in the 4th game of his 2nd year in the leage?
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not black


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Old 12-02-2011, 02:23 PM   #98
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this is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard....playing in California is now a knock against football players...because they've never experienced cold weather...

it is straight up reeruned...

I expect to read a lot of scouting reports this year that mention this, right?
Right now, you are sounding like Pioli Zombie defending anything patriot.

Its ok to talk about things that concerns about the kids we have a chance at drafting, isnt it?

I think Ive been very fair in my comments on Barkley and have been pointing out his strengths as well as his weaknesses...its too bad that anything said about him that isn't roses and rainbows is taken as "true fan" or whatever.

Does the fact that he hasnt ever played in a snow game a damning trait?

**** that, no.

He could end up being the best NFL QB in bad weather for all we know, or he could end up a guy with an average arm that his passes float when the weather gets bad and that leads him to be far less effective.

Im just saying its a point of concern that we play half the year under less than perfect conditions and that there is no tape of Barkley in those situations.

thats all
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Right now, you are sounding like Pioli Zombie defending anything patriot.

Its ok to talk about things that concerns about the kids we have a chance at drafting, isnt it?

I think Ive been very fair in my comments on Barkley and have been pointing out his strengths as well as his weaknesses...its too bad that anything said about him that isn't roses and rainbows is taken as "true fan" or whatever.

Does the fact that he hasnt ever played in a snow game a damning trait?

**** that, no.

He could end up being the best NFL QB in bad weather for all we know, or he could end up a guy with an average arm that his passes float when the weather gets bad and that leads him to be far less effective.

Im just saying its a point of concern that we play half the year under less than perfect conditions and that there is no tape of Barkley in those situations.

thats all

yes, I look forwarded to reading all the scouting reports of California players that mention they may not be able to handle cold weather...

the validity of your concern will be easy to prove when the draft rolls around and Mel and McShay are discussing how California QBs are unproven in cold weather...

I'll bump this thread then and apologize to you for being wrong about such an incredible insight...
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:28 PM   #100
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Barkley

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Pros:

not black


RG3

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black
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gets injured a a lot because of the option offense he doesn't actually play in
black

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owns a winter coat
So, that's how strawmen arguments work.

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yes, I look forwarded to reading all the scouting reports of California players that mention they may not be able to handle cold weather...

the validity of your concern will be easy to prove when the draft rolls around and Mel and McShay are discussing how California QBs are unproven in cold weather...

I'll bump this thread then and apologize to you for being wrong about such an incredible insight...
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Seems Im not the only one asking about him in cold weather.
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So, that's how strawmen arguments work.

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no, that's how I make fun of people who believe California players are going to be judged by scouts based on the weather....
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Seems Im not the only one asking about him in cold weather.
Great. Now he's gay.

So we either get the black QB or the gay California pansy.

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