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Old 12-01-2011, 09:14 PM  
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:23 AM   #211
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I tell you what, how about we put up a permaban wager:

You tell me how tries to play QB equals "is a good QB". Present your case to the jury. Persuade them and I'll kick off. Fail and leave.

Fair enough?
I would retract that bet if I were you. I hear this guy is one of the jurors

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Old 12-03-2011, 12:25 AM   #212
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Could you guys imagine Dick Vermiel coming back in as the coach with this defense and tools already in place on offense?

I think we would be deep in the playoffs next year...even with Orton.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:31 AM   #213
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Could you guys imagine Dick Vermiel coming back in as the coach with this defense and tools already in place on offense?

I think we would be deep in the playoffs next year...even with Orton.
McCluster would still be a worthless gizmo midget trick player... but he'd be a worthless gizmo midget trick player that everybody was talking about!
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:25 AM   #214
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Snowy conditions = winter football.

Frozen ball
windy

stuff Barkley hasnt had to deal with (very much, if at all) while playing on the west coast.


Nice back track. Now "snowy conditions" really means "winter and windy football games".

So would you define the game in Oregon earlier this month, where kickoff temp was 40 degrees, with wind chills in the 30's as "winter weather"? Barkley was 26-34 with 4 TDs and 300+ yards passing leading USC to the win.

How about USC's game at Colorado on November 4th? Game time temp was 41 degrees. Barkley was "chilled" to the tune of 6 TD passes.

All of this info. is at USCTrojans.com for your viewing pleasure.

You should really do some research and have FACTS to back up your bullshit claims.

Of course you have no facts. You have no game. You are a dumbshit fraud.

Game OVER.
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:29 AM   #215
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I tell you what, how about we put up a permaban wager:

You tell me how tries to play QB equals "is a good QB". Present your case to the jury. Persuade them and I'll kick off. Fail and leave.

Fair enough?
JFC you are a dumbshit. You can't even comprehend how you are being whored.

Your "giving credit to Palko for trying to be a QB" is a laughable joke, whether you meant that he is a good QB or not, is not the point.

Giving credit to an NFL QB for trying? Is this like the second grade where you get an "A for effort"? Also if Palko actually is "trying" with 0 TD passes and 8 turnovers in his two starts (both losses) then perhaps that effort isn't anything to get credit for.

Another epic fail on your part.

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Old 12-03-2011, 02:36 AM   #216
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Those are nice days in KC during half the year.

Call me when its 0 and windy and you are playing against Ed Reed.

Im gonna say it AGAIN since you havent seemed to have been able to read it the last few time I posted it.

I DIDN'T SAY HE COULDN'T DO IT, JUST THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE IN THE SITUATIONS HE WOULD BE FACING HALF THE YEAR IN KC. ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS.

I have also said probably 10 times now that I would take him with the #2 overall pick if we have it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:08 AM   #217
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This thread has taken a turn for the bizarre, and I disagree with Boss's analysis, but I'll give him credit for at least offering to critique a player.

For all the bitching about "drafturbators" there are far, far more chickenshit mother****ers who do nothing but go with the prevailing wind and bash whoever it is convenient to bash, whether it's a poster, the GM, the QB, et. al.

Fritz88's worthless ass comes to mind.
So calling you a draftshitulator hurts your vagina?

And since when did you become so protective of Pioli and Cassel?

I do enjoy your anger bursts, so please have one. It might be the reason I enjoy getting on your sensitive nerves.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:44 AM   #218
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40 degrees in Oregon is winter conditions.


JFC


I want Barkley bad, but let's not full reerun with statements like that.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:49 AM   #219
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JFC you are a dumbshit. You can't even comprehend how you are being whored.

Your "giving credit to Palko for trying to be a QB" is a laughable joke, whether you meant that he is a good QB or not, is not the point.

Giving credit to an NFL QB for trying? Is this like the second grade where you get an "A for effort"? Also if Palko actually is "trying" with 0 TD passes and 8 turnovers in his two starts (both losses) then perhaps that effort isn't anything to get credit for.

Another epic fail on your part.

Give him a trophy and invite him to have fun in the UFL next year.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:14 AM   #220
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I don't think Barkley has the arm strength to succeed at the next level. The way he spoke about the Heisman in that interview also leads me to believe hes not a super team-player.
I live in SoCal so I've been able to see the guy play a lot. The kid can make all the throws. He reminds of Chad Pennington but he can put more zip on the ball. Plus he plays in an NFL style of offense. The transition to the pro game for him would probably have less of a curve than most other guys, Luck included.

I'd hate for the Chiefs to draft him.
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I live in SoCal so I've been able to see the guy play a lot. The kid can make all the throws. He reminds of Chad Pennington...
Wait.......whut?
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:35 AM   #222
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I agree, let's not draft a potential franchise QB because it gets cold in KC in the winter.
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:16 AM   #223
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With all of the training and coaching he's received in his life, I wonder how much more of a ceiling Barkley has. I don't know if there is much room for improvement.

Here is a detailed scouting report on him (cbssportsline):

Accuracy: Is generally a very accurate passer who places the ball in position for his receiver to generate yardage after the catch. Adept at the back-shoulder fade and in zipping slants between defenders. Has a tendency to throw slightly behind receivers running crossing routes from his right to his left. Is consistently more accurate to receivers running left to right. Good ball placement on touch passes down the seam. Struggles consistently hitting receivers in stride on the deep ball. Typically overthrows the route, making his receiver the only one capable of catching up to the ball. Doesn't own a howitzer, however, and some of his deep passes can hang too long as a result.

Arm Strength: Has the ability to make every throw, but has only slightly above average arm strength, overall. Zips short and intermediate routes, but relies more on timing and accuracy, rather than arm strength for the deep out. Only an average deep ball passer.

Setup/Release: Among his better attributes. Takes virtually all of his snaps from under center and gains depth efficiently while keeping his eyes downfield. Sets his feet and steps into his throws when he given room. Has a compact, over the top throwing motion with good follow-through. Has shown the ability to drop his release point to evade oncoming pass rushers.

Reading Defenses: Another strength. An intelligent passer who has the freedom and understanding of the offense to call audibles at the line. Good poise in the pocket. Trusts his protection and keep a running clock in his head, looking to secondary targets before vacating the pocket. Rarely throws into the teeth of the defense and when he does so, he shows good accuracy to adjust his throw so that only his receiver should have a play on the ball.

On The Move: Lacks the foot speed and agility to ever be a true threat as a scrambler, but is an alert ball-carrier who will take yardage given to him. Often used on rollouts in this offense, especially moving to his right. Impressive accuracy on the move, even when not allowed to set his feet. Has to learn to run lower and gain strength in his lower body to improve on the quarterback sneak.

Intangibles: The only freshman in team history to start at quarterback in the season-opener and the first for any team ranked in the AP's top five to do so since No. 3 Michigan's Rick Leach did so in 1975. The first true sophomore to ever be named a captain at USC. Legitimate concerns about his size and durability. Has missed at least one game in each of his first two seasons due to injury, including an ankle sprain in 2010 (missed second half of Oregon State, Notre Dame) and a bruised right (throwing) shoulder in 2009 (missed Washington). Also underwent surgery on his right wrist prior to 2010 spring practice.

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Reads like a less mobile Cassel.
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The stpupid thing to me here is that as Sanchez was being discussed, al the true fans used weather as one of the reasons they didn't like him.

I don't think, nor have I ever thought, that weather is a factor, but Boss Chief is getting shit for mentioning weather as a concern, even while saying he'd take him at #2.
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I agree, let's not draft a potential franchise QB because it gets cold in KC in the winter.
Exactly.


I don't give a **** if the kid played in Ecuador. If he can make the throws and has the slightest chance of being a franchise QB, draft that ****er.
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