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Old 12-06-2011, 11:55 AM  
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Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols
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Confirmed: #Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols. Source says two sides trying to work through no-trade issue. MORE #MLB
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:36 PM   #31
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Maybe because they aren't considered a contender?

There's only a select few that have money as their #1 priority.

Most have winning as their #1 priority, but if the money gets so ridiculous that you can't pass it up... you take it.
There's only a select few that say money is their #1 priority.

Then the FA season starts and damn near everyone takes the highest offer, especially in baseball.

C'mon - you don't really buy the agent-speak do you? Mike Hampton went to the Rockies because of the school districts? Neil O'Donnel left the Steelers for the Jets because he wanted to win a championship? Albert Pujols left a World Series team that was getting it's CY caliber ace starter back in 2012 to go to a Marlins team that finished 30 games out because he wanted to win?

Give me a break - it's about the money. I don't begrudge them for it, never have. But I also don't care to hear them lie about it either.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:40 PM   #32
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They did pretty good their first ten years in the league and one time they were on alot of free agent lists. Being strung out with a piss poor lease and playing in Dolphins Stadium hurt them big time.
They did well for those 10 years because in one of them they overpaid like crazy for guys like Kevin Brown and Gary Sheffield. After 2 seasons of being unable to sustain their payroll, they dumped them off and got some damn nice arms in return.

Those arms then fueled their 2nd run of sustained success over that 10-year period.

They're a slash/burn franchise. They'll make a massive FA splash, fan interest will wane after a year or two then they'll operate with a skeleton crew for a long time thereafter. They aren't going out there and getting underpaid marquis FAs knocking down their doors to play there.

Look at the history of FA movement in MLB. There are really only 2 kinds of contracts that make up 95% of all signings - 1) Hometown discount contracts and 2) Best $$ available. Now sometimes a player will take highest AAV instead of highest overall $$ (like Cliff Lee last season), but it still came down to money in some capacity.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:43 PM   #33
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Yeeeeah... Something tells me that Albert effing Pujols will be able to negotiate a no trade clause for himself... Just a hunch
he may get one, but what about all the other guys they are signing? Does he want to be left standing in the ashes after the rest of the team is dealt away?
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:45 PM   #34
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he may get one, but what about all the other guys they are signing? Does he want to be left standing in the ashes after the rest of the team is dealt away?
You mean the ashes from the $100 bills he uses to light his cigars as he laughs his way into retirement?
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:46 PM   #35
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I'm not sure Pujols cares what people in Kansas City think of Miami as a sports town. $200 mill is $200 mill. (Actually more in Miami since Florida doesn't have a state income tax.)...

I'm not convinced its a bad sports town. The heat have plenty of support now that theory product is upgraded. The dolphins have good support. The Panthers don't but that franchise is run by a bunch of clowns. Miami as a sports town is probably about average. Then you add in money and lifestyle.

I don't follow the Cardinals - is he upset with the team? A player like this usually finds a place where he is king and doesn't leave.
Do you want to sit outside in 95 degree humid heat? I don't. That has to be why their attendance is so bad.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:48 PM   #36
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You mean the ashes from the $100 bills he uses to light his cigars as he laughs his way into retirement?
Exactly, when he starts feeling down he can go for a swim in his money bin.

Doesn't sound like Albert has many friends in STL as it is or they'd have some sort of hope to retain him.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:48 PM   #37
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Do you want to sit outside in 95 degree humid heat? I don't. That has to be why their attendance is so bad.
That is a big thing as well. That is why they are building the rectractable dome stadium.
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Exactly, when he starts feeling down he can go for a swim in his money bin.

Doesn't sound like Albert has many friends in STL as it is or they'd have some sort of hope to retain him.
Cardinals fans all want to retain him, but few of them value Albert Pujols over the long-term success of the St. Louis Cardinals.

If Albert needs a 10 year deal for $230 million to fee respected; more power to him. That will cripple the Cardinals and they shouldn't offer it.

The Cardinals existed before him, they'll exist after him. I would prefer that he become my generation's Musial, but he doesn't appear interested in doing so. As such, I'll go back to hoping for success from the team I rooted for long before Albert Pujols donned the Birds on the Bat.
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Cardinals fans all want to retain him, but few of them value Albert Pujols over the long-term success of the St. Louis Cardinals.

If Albert needs a 10 year deal for $230 million to fee respected; more power to him. That will cripple the Cardinals and they shouldn't offer it.

The Cardinals existed before him, they'll exist after him. I would prefer that he become my generation's Musial, but he doesn't appear interested in doing so. As such, I'll go back to hoping for success from the team I rooted for long before Albert Pujols donned the Birds on the Bat.
You sound exactly like my dad on this issue. Respect for AP but doesn't think the Cards should love him any more than he loves them.
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Cardinals fans all want to retain him, but few of them value Albert Pujols over the long-term success of the St. Louis Cardinals.

If Albert needs a 10 year deal for $230 million to fee respected; more power to him. That will cripple the Cardinals and they shouldn't offer it.

The Cardinals existed before him, they'll exist after him. I would prefer that he become my generation's Musial, but he doesn't appear interested in doing so. As such, I'll go back to hoping for success from the team I rooted for long before Albert Pujols donned the Birds on the Bat.
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Good grief...He makes more in a couple of minutes swinging a baseball bat than a teacher makes in a year.
Its because he is gifted with a skill very few people in the world posses and hes better at that skill than those few people. By comparison, almost anyone can teach. Dont flame......
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Its because he is gifted with a skill very few people in the world posses and hes better at that skill than those few people. By comparison, almost anyone can teach. Dont flame......
Many people can say that. The difference is that his particular niche skill happens to be one that is extremely marketable.
Your statement that anyone can teach is ignorant at best and maliciously untrue at worst.
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Your statement that anyone can teach is ignorant at best and maliciously untrue at worst.
Anyone can teach....doesnt mean they are good at it. : )
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Anyone can teach....doesnt mean they are good at it. : )
Oh, yes. My bad. Could have used a good teacher to help me with my reading comprehension there.
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