Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols

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Ken_RosenthalKen Rosenthal

Confirmed: #Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols. Source says two sides trying to work through no-trade issue. MORE #MLB

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Good Christ. How can the Marlins be spending this much on Reyes and Pujols while currently under an SEC investigation?

um, cause baseball is a monopolized "sport"

[Demonpenz]

his final years are going to be a Albertross

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jonmorosiJon Morosi


I'm no body language expert, but #Marlins looked rather smiley as Albert Pujols talks approach critical point.

[jd1020]

Would anyone really be at all surprised if he wasn't in Stl?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

He should come to KC Why wouldn't he stay in STL? Consistent winner, great franchise, etc.

[DJ's left nut]

Goold says that Pujols is pissed off at the Cardinals front office because he doesn't feel they negotiated in good faith (didn't move off their previous offer by much).

I gotta be honest - that's pretty damn petty if true. I'd hate to see him shit on the fans (because that's who will feel it the most) because he's made at the front office. I don't think he's really thinking that decision through very well.

At this point I believe he's gone and we'll know it by COB today. That said, the Cardinals will survive without him.

[seclark]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Would anyone really be at all surprised if he wasn't in Stl?

i'd be mildly surprised, but i've already decided that it's foolish to throw all those millions on one player at the expense of the teams future.

ap, imo is one of the greatest players i've ever gotten to watch, but i'd rather watch the whole team compete and win more than i want to watch one player stay w/my favorite team while it loses.

if he wants to go...bye. thanks for the memories ap. and thanks mo and bd for having the sense to let him walk.
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Originally Posted by jd1020

And it's over 200mil.

By simple virtue of inductive logic it has to be over $200m if its an offer that is considered something he might sign. He's not going to sign for less than a $20M AAV when he had an offer of supposedly around $22M AAV on the table for over a year.

[vailpass]

Has Pujols started to decline yet? If not, how many more seasons before he is no longer the Pujos of old?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Has Pujols started to decline yet? If not, how many more seasons before he is no longer the Pujos of old?

I'd say he's got 4 years of prime AP level success left and then a steady decline after that.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I'd say he's got 4 years of prime AP level success left and then a steady decline after that.

Seems like the Marlins know they need sometone big to launch their new stadium, to sell the box seats and get a season ticket holder base. And they are willing to overpay for him since it is an investment.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Has Pujols started to decline yet? If not, how many more seasons before he is no longer the Pujos of old?

This was his 4th consecutive season with a declining OPS.

Now, 'decline' is a relative term; he was still spectacular through 2010. But in 2011 he was merely very very good. It was the worst season of his career and by a relatively decent margin. I'm not saying he was shit, but he's no longer at the peak of Everest.

Pujols is already declining. And the Pujols of old may never surface again (if it does, it will be similar to Berkman's last hurrah this year or Musial's 57 season; raw pride at work for a year).

Unfortunately all signs are that Mozeliak is simply going to take that money and throw it at even older, shittier players than Pujols (Jimmy Rollins and Mark Buehrle). So the Cardinals are going to leap out of the way of one bullet, right into the path of another.

Good going, fellas.

[teedubya]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The Royals countered with a 5 year 15 million dollar deal and offered him the "Keys to the city of Independence"

And 2 meth labs. Don't forget that. It sure sweetens the pot, IMO.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This was his 4th consecutive season with a declining OPS.

Now, 'decline' is a relative term; he was still spectacular through 2010. But in 2011 he was merely very very good. It was the worst season of his career and by a relatively decent margin. I'm not saying he was shit, but he's no longer at the peak of Everest.

Pujols is already declining. And the Pujols of old may never surface again (if it does, it will be similar to Berkman's last hurrah this year or Musial's 57 season; raw pride at work for a year).

Unfortunately all signs are that Mozeliak is simply going to take that money and throw it at even older, shittier players than Pujols (Jimmy Rollins and Mark Buehrle). So the Cardinals are going to leap out of the way of one bullet, right into the path of another.

Good going, fellas.

Wow. Marlins are going all-in for the now.

[whoman69]

Looks like Stan Musial gets to keep the Cardinals home run record. I would hardly say the Cardinals acted in bad faith considering were a smaller market that is what they could afford to give. Just because he kept saying that isn't enough doesn't mean they can up that offer. With Albert the Cardinals become the favorite to win the World Series again considering Wainwright comes back. I wish he'd make up his mind. If Albert signs elsewhere the Cardinals should look to add another starter and an OF with Berkman going to first.