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Old 12-06-2011, 09:10 PM   #1
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He had plenty good enough supporting casts for a marquee player to win a championship with. The team was built around him.
You and Dan Gilbert are the only idiots you actually beleive this.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:19 PM   #2
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You and Dan Gilbert are the only idiots you actually beleive this.
Drew Gooden, Ilgauskus, Larry Hughes, Varejao. And in every team he played for, the Cavs had one of the most suffocating defenses in the league with plenty of solid role players. The team was built around a superstar. In the later years, they couldn't get Lebron better players because Lebron refused to sign a long-term contract. That's why they traded for shitty stopgaps like Jamison and Joe Smith. Because no free agent in their right mind would sign a long-term deal.

Lebron played on plenty of supporting casts that would have won a championship with a superstar.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:27 PM   #3
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Drew Gooden, Ilgauskus, Larry Hughes, Varejao.
You're really making the arguement that those 4 guys were a good enough supporting cast to win a title? Really? Even as a KU homer I know Gooden was mostly worthless... and Anderson Varejao?! Anderson Varejao???!!!

Good God man! Hate LeBron all you want but damn...
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:54 PM   #4
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You're really making the arguement that those 4 guys were a good enough supporting cast to win a title? Really? Even as a KU homer I know Gooden was mostly worthless... and Anderson Varejao?! Anderson Varejao???!!!

Good God man! Hate LeBron all you want but damn...
LeBron/a young Z/Larry Hughes/Gooden with Varejao as the #6 guy off the bench... it's not nearly as bad as people say. And Eric Snow as a useless scorer, but a good ballhandler and defender. In his latter years, they never brought in the marquee free agents. But they were a defensive powerhouse with good, solid role players. The problem is that people are stuck on this idea that you have to build a roster stacked with superstars.

The team was built very well for Lebron. The problem is that the Cavs built the team to support Lebron being "the guy." Pretty clear that in Miami, that's not who he is. His ego will never admit it, but he's a very good player who needs somebody else to take over in key moments.

Lebron had a good enough supporting cast early in his career to win a championship. Later in his career, if he committed to Cleveland, he could have convinced a very good free agent to sign a long-term contract there.
So instead, the Cavs fell over backwards for him and tried to piece together shitty 2-year stopgaps like Jamison, all aimed at getting Lebron a winner so he'd stay in Cleveland. Lebron weaseled his way into convincing not one but two marquee players to sign in Miami. He couldn't have even tried to do the same in Cleveland?
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