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yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:02 AM   #31
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:03 AM   #32
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Does not matter, if Chiefs GM isn't willing to draft a first round pick and make him the QBotf then there is no hope who ever the HC is.
I think thats a bullshit argument, to a degree.

If you were to tell us 3 years ago that we would take a safety top five and follow it up with a first round wide out, I would LOL @U.

Pioli has shown to be able to recognize and select the talent of the draft the last two that fits what the team needs.

I dont see anything that says he wouldn't take a first round quarterback if one is there that he believes in and sees it as a similar need as most of us do.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:03 AM   #33
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I would fire him if he elects to keep Muir around as OC...
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:03 AM   #34
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Franchise record low scoring offense.
If he gets the boot this will be a good enough reason. But if the lack of offensive prowess were really his fault I think that his players would give up. The fact that they haven't suggests that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, the players just aren't executing and getting the job done.
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If he gets the boot this will be a good enough reason. But if the lack of offensive prowess were really his fault I think that his players would give up. The fact that they haven't suggests that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, the players just aren't executing and getting the job done.
I don't see a lot of fight in Bowe. Doesn't look enthused at all.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:05 AM   #36
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The players have completely bought in to Todd. They really seem to like him.

Firing him now, with all the injuries, send a bad message to the team, I think.

These players aren't even remotely close to giving up on Haley.

Pioli needs to remove his head from his ass and draft a ****ing franchise QB.
My greatest fear at this moment in time ... well, other than being attacked in my bed by a bear ... is that the haters will get what they want; namely Haley's head on a pike.

It's not that we couldn't do better in a head coach. I'm sure we could ... eventually. But sometimes you wind up regretting what you wished so hard for ... like the .22 rifle that you want for Christmas before you accidentally shoot your dog.

It's far more likely that we will get some doobob that truly is a total Pioli sycophant and things go from improving to worsening in short order. Our players are professionals, sure. But they have developed an affinity and affection for Todd and his Haley ways. I could definitely see a world where we get a Norv or a Herm or a Del Rio or some other asswipe who finds Haley's shoes difficult to fill when it comes to player dedication, allegiance, and loyalty.

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Old 12-08-2011, 01:07 AM   #37
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The mistake you make is thinking he's gone after this season. Like so many mistakes you've made before. When he's back next year remind us why you know so much about football. You're an all or nothing person who never considers the gray area or takes time to see past your own knee jerk reactions. Actual NFL teams and especially the Chiefs don't think like that. Maybe one day you'll get that.
Sorry but there are no knee jerk reactions from me on Todd Haley. I was very supportive of him until last year's Denver game, and then I started to cool off. That turned into disgust at the start of the year and has finally morphed into "had enough, well, bye."

Dude is definitely gone.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:07 AM   #38
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Franchise record low scoring offense.

Think about the coaches this team has had in the past, and this supposed offensive genius has done worse than they have.

Injuries, no injuries, that's unfathomable. If this team keeps him around for the last year of his contract, it will be for the same reason Carolina and Tennessee kept their lame duck coaches around: They were simply too ****ing cheap to pay them to just go away.
It's missing its MVP and shitty QB play. Think about that.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:09 AM   #39
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I don't see a lot of fight in Bowe. Doesn't look enthused at all.
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Too much credit goes to Romeo. Romeo's a terrific X's and O's guy. But he's not a great coach. He's not the fiery guy that's going to get his team playing the way they're playing now.
What's interesting is that he probably has more to do with saving Haley's job than Haley does himself. If Romeo's D doesn't step up in Indianapolis and hold the Colts scoreless for an entire half, Haley is axed after that game.

There was an article in the KC Star about Romeo making a big locker room speech, too.
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Keep Haley. Get a real OC. Get key players back from injury. Draft well. Get a couple non-descript but helpful free agents. Coach up the youngins. Rocket science.

Hell... and I'm not even a football fan first.
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Sorry but there are no knee jerk reactions from me on Todd Haley. I was very supportive of him until last year's Denver game, and then I started to cool off. That turned into disgust at the start of the year and has finally morphed into "had enough, well, bye."

Dude is definitely gone.
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Sorry but there are no knee jerk reactions from me on Todd Haley. I was very supportive of him until last year's Denver game, and then I started to cool off. That turned into disgust at the start of the year and has finally morphed into "had enough, well, bye."

Dude is definitely gone.
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Haley was suppossed to be fired weeks ago according to Goknownothing remember?
No, I said I thought he would be fired if we had continued our losing streak.

And he definitely would have been fired if we had lost to Indy.

Kyle Boller, Curtis Painter and a miracle snap saved Haley's job for a few more weeks.
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I don't see a lot of fight in Bowe. Doesn't look enthused at all.
Don't really care what you think you see. You're a pitbull in the henhouse. You reach for the easiest hen and lock down. Then you grab another. It's actually comical.
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