Chiefs Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? - Page 19

**BossChief** · 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

**BossChief** · 12-08-2011, 06:38 PM

I don't think Haley is gonna get fired, but to take the word of Shaun Smith as some sort of gospel on it is a little silly.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-08-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

The most absurd post in this thread.

Certainly someone who is not part of the Chiefs anymore knows.

I wonder how many KC media members Shaun Smith talks to?

Or we could make shit up like WPI and the kc media i'll take the word of someone that was in locker room over the kc media any day.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-08-2011, 06:41 PM

ChiefsandOsFanGreg
@autumnsjs90 why do you think haley is safe? Love to get a former players protective on this

autumnsjs90shaun smith
@ChiefsandOsFan he A good coach just missing a few pieces plus 29 25 got hurt week 1 and 2

jd1020 · 12-08-2011, 06:42 PM

This is what Shaun Smith said, in English.

Haley is not going anywhere... No. We're. Trust me.

Haley and Smith going on vacation!

**BossChief** · 12-08-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

ChiefsandOsFanGreg
@autumnsjs90 why do you think haley is safe? Love to get a former players protective on this

autumnsjs90shaun smith
@ChiefsandOsFan he A good coach just missing a few pieces plus 29 25 got hurt week 1 and 2

haha while he is responding, ask him his short thoughts on cassel

jd1020 · 12-08-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

haha while he is responding, ask him his short thoughts on cassel

I doubt he says anything negative.

**BossChief** · 12-08-2011, 06:53 PM

of course not, but he might say something we can frivolously pick apart.

DTLB58 · 12-08-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

I think it would be a mistake. Who would we replace him with that's better?

That's what Steeler fans said Before Mike Tomlin. Did the Pack know what they had in McCarthy? You don't know until someone gets their opportunity.

I have been a Haley supporter all along but I have seen some things this season I haven't liked. The guy needs to grow up and fast.

I know Clark wants stability within the Franchise (Pittsburgh) and changing the coach every 3-4 years isn't going to get that, but Todd is making it harder and harder to stay with him. I say since he has 1 year left on his deal they keep him. Is that a mistake? NO. Because he has been strapped with Cassel IMO by Pioli. Get him a real QB and see what the team does, then judge.

jd1020 · 12-08-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

That's what Steeler fans said Before Mike Tomlin. Did the Pack know what they had in McCarthy? You don't know until someone gets their opportunity.

I have been a Haley supporter all along but I have seen some things this season I haven't liked. The guy needs to grow up and fast.

I know Clark wants stability within the Franchise (Pittsburgh) and changing the coach every 3-4 years isn't going to get that, but Todd is making it harder and harder to stay with him. I say since he has 1 year left on his deal they keep him. Is that a mistake? NO. Because he has been strapped with Cassel IMO by Pioli. Get him a real QB and see what the team does then judge.

Come on.

Did you view Alex Smith as a real QB?

Harbaugh took a shit team, with no off season, in his first year to clinching the division in week 13.

Even John Fox rewrote the entire Broncos offense to win games with ****ing Tebow.

jd1020 · 12-08-2011, 07:04 PM

The Chiefs have waaaaaaaaay too much talent to be bending over the Detroit, Buffalo, and Miami.

Coach needs to go.

DTLB58 · 12-08-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Come on.

Did you view Alex Smith as a real QB?

Harbaugh took a shit team, with no off season, in his first year to clinching the division in week 13.

Even John Fox rewrote the entire Broncos offense to win games with ****ing Tebow.

Did you view Matt Cassel as a real QB last season? (Division Title)

Todd Haley took a shit team.....well you get the point.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-08-2011, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

The Chiefs have waaaaaaaaay too much talent to be bending over the Detroit, Buffalo, and Miami.

Coach needs to go.

Really? Lions have more talent then the chiefs. Bills game was bad i'll give you that.Miami is playing great ball right now.

splatbass · 12-08-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Every head coach is not a petulant child and nor is Pioli.

Says the petulant child. Ironic.

Hammock Parties · 12-08-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Says the petulant child. Ironic.

Why is it ironic?

I'm not being paid millions of dollars to coach a football team.

I'm a fan. Being petulant is almost expected.

jd1020 · 12-08-2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Did you view Matt Cassel as a real QB last season? (Division Title)

Todd Haley took a shit team.....well you get the point.

Meh. Haley had a good OC helping him lead the offense.

Fires Gailey. Runs Weis out of town. Promotes Muir.

Is there any coincidence to the offense being ****ing terrible years 1 and 3?

View Poll Results: Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built.	142	61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please.	79	34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks.	11	4.74%
Voters: 232. You may not vote on this poll

12-07-2011, 11:54 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1605912	Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable. His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones. For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience. This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on. All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL. I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)? I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out. Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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12-08-2011, 06:38 PM	#271
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1605912	I don't think Haley is gonna get fired, but to take the word of Shaun Smith as some sort of gospel on it is a little silly. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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12-08-2011, 06:41 PM	#273
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1286009	ChiefsandOsFanGreg @autumnsjs90 why do you think haley is safe? Love to get a former players protective on this autumnsjs90shaun smith @ChiefsandOsFan he A good coach just missing a few pieces plus 29 25 got hurt week 1 and 2
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12-08-2011, 06:42 PM	#274
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7042645	This is what Shaun Smith said, in English. Haley is not going anywhere... No. We're. Trust me. Haley and Smith going on vacation!
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12-08-2011, 06:53 PM	#277
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1605912	of course not, but he might say something we can frivolously pick apart. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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12-08-2011, 07:04 PM	#280
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7042645	The Chiefs have waaaaaaaaay too much talent to be bending over the Detroit, Buffalo, and Miami. Coach needs to go.
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