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jd1020 · 12-10-2011, 10:32 AM

The curse of the machine.

Cards don't see the WS for another 80 years.

Rams Fan · 12-10-2011, 10:33 AM

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The curse of the machine.

Cards don't see the WS for another 80 years.

You wish.

**BigRedChief** · 12-10-2011, 10:34 AM

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The curse of the machine.

Cards don't see the WS for another 80 years.

With our projected pitching staff in 2013....I highly doubt it.

jd1020 · 12-10-2011, 10:35 AM

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With our projected pitching staff in 2013....I highly doubt it.

Phillies didn't make it last year.

**BigRedChief** · 12-10-2011, 10:38 AM

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Phillies didn't make it last year.

And just who was it that beat the dream team of pitchers???

Rams Fan · 12-10-2011, 10:37 AM

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With our projected pitching staff in 2013....I highly doubt it.

The potential of Martinez/Wainwright/Miller/Carpenter/Whoever in a rotation is great, sure.

But they'll need to address first base in the long term soon. I hope they give Adams a look or go after Votto after the 2012 season(he's put up identical statistics to Fielder since he came into the league in 2007 and the Cards will have potentially both Lohse's and Westbrook's contract off the books).

jd1020 · 12-10-2011, 10:39 AM

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The potential of Martinez/Wainwright/Miller/Carpenter/Whoever in a rotation is great, sure.

But they'll need to address first base in the long term soon. I hope they give Adams a look or go after Votto after the 2012 season(he's put up identical statistics to Fielder since he came into the league in 2007 and the Cards will have potentially both Lohse's and Westbrook's contract off the books).

I doubt Votto ever reaches FA. He's either going to reup with the Reds or he's going to be traded because the Reds have another stud 1B prospect right behind him.

Rams Fan · 12-10-2011, 10:40 AM

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I doubt Votto ever reaches FA. He's either going to reup with the Reds or he's going to be traded because the Reds have another stud 1B prospect right behind him.

I wouldn't say Alonso is a stud. Decent, sure, but not a stud.

I can see them keeping Phillips or Votto, not both.

jd1020 · 12-10-2011, 10:42 AM

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I wouldn't say Alonso is a stud. Decent, sure, but not a stud.

I can see them keeping Phillips or Votto, not both.

Phillips is in the middle of contract talks. Votto will be traded, because, unlike Pujols, he doesn't have 10/5 rights.

Rams Fan · 12-10-2011, 10:43 AM

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Phillips is in the middle of contract talks. Votto will be traded, because, unlike Pujols, he doesn't have 10/5 rights.

Does 2007 count as his rookie season?

Wouldn't he have 10/5 rights if it did?

Frazod · 12-10-2011, 10:39 AM

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The curse of the machine.

Cards don't see the WS for another 80 years.

The curse of the machine would have been paying him 25 million a year to pinch hit six or seven years from now.

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