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yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:19 PM   #631
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Can anyone name another head coach who has literally been dominated in 1/3 of his games?
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:20 PM   #632
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Can anyone name another head coach who has literally been dominated in 1/3 of his games?
Tampa has been as unimpressive. Whatever, both of them are going to get fired.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:21 PM   #633
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Its hard to see how bad this team is with all the former head coaches on the staff:

Romeo
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Granted they all sucked but still.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:21 PM   #634
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I like your devoted, blind, defense of Haley.
I like the fact that the fault lies everywhere BUT Failey. Personally, I'd like to see what Cassel can do with a consistent OC and a coach who isn't one pill away from a rubber room.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:21 PM   #635
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Bill Muir? I'm not a fan at all of this guy, but I'm still not convinced that this is Haley's fault at all. I think Haley developed an unfair reputation as a head coach who is impossible to work with, when in fact, I think the bigger problem was a front office that forced coordinators onto the head coach with absolutely no regard whatsoever to whether the coach wanted them in the first place.
Yeah, too bad they forced him to take Charlie Weis, who makes Haley look like a goddamn dumbass.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:22 PM   #636
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I like the fact that the fault lies everywhere BUT Failey. Personally, I'd like to see what Cassel can do with a consistent OC and a coach who isn't one pill away from a rubber room.
Haley is going to get fired, but personally I think you are a lot closer to the rubber room than Todd Haley.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:23 PM   #637
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I like your devoted, blind, defense of Haley.
It's not a blind defense. In a fair world, I believe that Pioli should admit he made a mistake, and give Haley a 2-year extension to see what he can do with a real QB.

I'm not convinced that Haley is a long-term answer. But he has done more than enough good things to say that he deserves a chance to at least prove his worth... y'know... with real players at the most critical positions.

The GM asked our head coach to win without a good QB and without a Nose Tackle. Now we're asking him to win without a RB and a 5th string QB on any other roster.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:23 PM   #638
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when you bring in sub par free agents, you get sub par results. The egg for this year goes on Scott, not Todd.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:23 PM   #639
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It's not a blind defense. In a fair world, I believe that Pioli should admit he made a mistake, and give Haley a 2-year extension to see what he can do with a real QB.

I'm not convinced that Haley is a long-term answer. But he has done more than enough good things to say that he deserves a chance to at least prove his worth... y'know... with real players at the most critical positions.

The GM asked our head coach to win without a good QB and without a Nose Tackle. Now we're asking him to win without a RB and a 5th string QB on any other roster.
Why does Haley deserve a 2 year extension? You are ****ing reeruned.

"I'm not convinced Haley is a long-term answer. But we should extend him."
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:25 PM   #641
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when you bring in sub par free agents, you get sub par results. The egg for this year goes on Scott, not Todd.
And yet, Haley's the one getting fired. Watch much NFL football?
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Yeah, too bad they forced him to take Charlie Weis, who makes Haley look like a goddamn dumbass.
Charlie Weis didn't do anyhting against good teams.

He also didn't do anything without Charles.

Going back to '09, this team, as of two games ago, averaged just over 13 points a game without Charles, over 20 with.
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And I bet the many of you that said that will still be posting next year if/when Cassel starts opening day next year.
What's your point?
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