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yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:21 PM   #766
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That's kind of my point.

A defensive HC took a passing team with Orton and rewrote the entire offense with Tebow. He is the worst QB in the league, imo, and the Broncos are 6-1(?) with him as a starter. Fox, a defensive guy, has gotten more out of his offense with a ****ing FB taking the snaps than Haley, an offensive guy, has gotten out of Cassel/Palko.
Well they are running an offense taylored to Tebows strengths, which happens to be running the ball and throwing it as little as possible until the defense goes to prevent. This also keeps his defense fresh allowing them to play out of their minds.

I dunno what Cassel and Palko's strengths are or how we could play towards them.

But I do get what your are saying and its pretty much true.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:23 PM   #767
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It's hard to get it to your playmakers when you can't throw it consistently more than 10 yards and the defense only has to cover a 15 yard zone.


I'm all for getting rid of Haley, but the qb situation on this team is absolutely awful. Like record setting awful.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:23 PM   #768
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Not defending Haley here.

There is no such thing as an offensive guru.

You have talent, or you don't.
You got 3 pretty good WR's. The best WR core we've had in awhile and a decent O-line. There should have been more than 3 touchdowns scored in the last 28 QTRS.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:24 PM   #769
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Well they are running an offense taylored to Tebows strengths, which happens to be running the ball and throwing it as little as possible until the defense goes to prevent. This also keeps his defense fresh allowing them to play out of their minds.

I dunno what Cassel and Palko's strengths are or how we could play towards them.

But I do get what your are saying and its pretty much true.
Palko is comparable, but slightly better imo, to Tebow. Tebow is the better runner because hes a god damn FB, but Palko is a way better passer.

He is not a deep threat QB. But where are all of the quick hitter/screens to Bowe/Baldwin/Breaston/McCluster.

All day is ****ing Battle outside, McCluster inside, short pass on 3rd and long.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:24 PM   #770
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Well they are running an offense taylored to Tebows strengths, which happens to be running the ball and throwing it as little as possible until the defense goes to prevent. This also keeps his defense fresh allowing them to play out of their minds.

I dunno what Cassel and Palko's strengths are or how we could play towards them.

But I do get what your are saying and its pretty much true.
And the fact is, their talent at RB and on the line is superior to ours.

Their playcalling is similar to ours, but the difference is talent, and what TeBow brings as a runner, as well.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:24 PM   #771
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See my previous post.
I realize our QB position is the worst in the NFL but I think a competent head coach with an offensive background can manage to design a system that can score more than 10 points a game.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:25 PM   #772
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Palko is comparable, but slightly better imo, to Tebow. Tebow is the better runner because hes a god damn FB, but Palko is a way better passer.
You are an idiot.

A freaking idiot.

Palko is better than no one. Not even Dan Orlovsky.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:26 PM   #773
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You got 3 pretty good WR's. The best WR core we've had in awhile and a decent O-line. There should have been more than 3 touchdowns scored in the last 28 QTRS.
You can't score if the defense stacks everthing tight and you don't have a QB that can get the ball beyond ten yards.
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You are an idiot.

A freaking idiot.
Please explain. I'm waiting to hear what makes Tebow better than Palko.
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Was Thigpen better than Cassel/Palko?
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Please explain. I'm waiting to hear what makes Tebow better than Palko.
He's a better passer and a better runner.

Are you ****ing joking?

Palko is the worst thing EVER. He is, at best, a 3rd stringer in Canada.
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He's a better passer and a better runner.

Are you ****ing joking?

Palko is the worst thing EVER. He is, at best, a 3rd stringer in Canada.
Tebow is completing 47% of his passes and you think he's a better passer? Are you ****ing stupid?
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I realize our QB position is the worst in the NFL but I think a competent head coach with an offensive background can manage to design a system that can score more than 10 points a game.
I don't.

Not with Tyler Palko throwing the ball, and a brokedick Thomas Jones and Jackie Battle, and a McMidget that thinks the spin move is the greatest thing since sliced bread running the ball.
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Tebow is completing 47% of his passes and you think he's a better passer? Are you ****ing stupid?
His accuracy sucks, but he does have the ability to make throws that travel further than the end of his dick.
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Please explain. I'm waiting to hear what makes Tebow better than Palko.
Besides being significantly better at every physical dimension? I don't think he ever succeeds because of the throwing motion. But my god he is much better. And their running game significantly makes it easier for tebow.
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