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Old 12-18-2011, 03:07 PM  
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Would the Chiefs have won this game with Haley?

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Old 12-18-2011, 04:16 PM   #61
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No, but mostly because I think the players rallied around Crennel. I don't think Haley would have, honestly, played Palko over Orton like some around here do.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:17 PM   #62
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Which 8 of you ****ing idiots think that Palko wouldn't have started this game?
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:17 PM   #63
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Are you ****ing insane or did you watch the game? McCluster only ran the ball 5 times (2 were reverses), caught 2 passes, and was only targeted twice. Anything between the tackles was TJ, Battle, and McClain for 125 yards.

Yes actually having a NFL QB for the first time this year made a big difference, but without Haley fiddle-****ing with the offensive game plan and calling plays whenever he decided he knew best this offense hummed like it hasn't in a long time. That was a combo of Orton and offensive coaches getting to put together a gameplan and executing it. First major change they made.............McCluster is not going to be a feature anything.

Another example of what coaching and scheming can do.....see Leonard Pope and all of those productive screens we haven't seen all year. Hell of job by Orton, but "The difference was Orton" was only part of it.
I watched the whole game. QB was the difference.

Does 3 FG's inside the 10 yard line sound familiar?

Play calling was just as spotty at times, especially in the 3rd quarter.

I will say it again, the difference was the QB not shitting his pants and throwing down field.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:19 PM   #64
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Are you ****ing insane or did you watch the game? McCluster only ran the ball 5 times (2 were reverses), caught 2 passes, and was only targeted twice. Anything between the tackles was TJ, Battle, and McClain for 125 yards.
2 of McCluster's 5 runs were the same delay draw we've seen ever since he got here.

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Another example of what coaching and scheming can do.....see Leonard Pope and all of those productive screens we haven't seen all year. Hell of job by Orton, but "The difference was Orton" was only part of it.
The first screen to McClain was the SAME screen we ran in the gold zone against Minnesota where Cassel locked in on McCluster and threw it into the dirt.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:19 PM   #65
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Which 8 of you ****ing idiots think that Palko wouldn't have started this game?
I'm one of the 8...just felt like being a contrarian...
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:20 PM   #66
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:21 PM   #67
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No way - they'd have come out as flat as they have since the SD game.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:22 PM   #68
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Which 8 of you ****ing idiots think that Palko wouldn't have started this game?
How do you know? Again, Haley made the official qb change in Chicago. You can disagree with how quickly he should have thought orton could learn a new offense or heal an injured finger. But it's ridiculous to suggest that just because he didn't play orton a week after injuring his finger that he was committed to palko over orton.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:22 PM   #69
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Nope.

The players would not have played as hard.
The QB would've been Palko.
The playcalling would be McCluster in between the tackles.
yep

other than inside the 10 yard line, the playcalling was much better today.

eliminate the stupid mistakes and keep the offense spread out inside the redzone and we might be decent.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #70
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:23 PM   #71
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Nope I just think the issues went much farther than Haley.

Lets not act like we didn't win some big games with Haley as coach.

The defense was huge today and they have been playing like that for some time though a bit inconsistent at times due to offensive ineptitude.

The offense moved the ball because Orton was under center. Not Palko or Cassel.

Did Haley's spat with Pioli effect his judgment on QB? Yea. It hurt the team too.

Do we play like this with Orton under center and Haley as coach? I see no reason to believe otherwise.

People are blinded by the win but if you look at what happened there was nothing ground breaking aside from better QB play.

What else happened that was so different?
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:24 PM   #72
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I know some of the 9 voters are just ****ing around, but there are a few that overdosed on stupid pills today.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:25 PM   #73
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yep

other than inside the 10 yard line, the playcalling was much better today.

eliminate the stupid mistakes and keep the offense spread out inside the redzone and we might be decent.
Did you not see DMC up the gut 2x the first drive of the 3rd quarter?

The team played hard all season, anybody who thinks otherwise is just cherry picking to make themselves feel better.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:25 PM   #74
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Nope I just think the issues went much farther than Haley.

Lets not act like we didn't win some big games with Haley as coach.

The defense was huge today and they have been playing like that for some time though a bit inconsistent at times due to offensive ineptitude.

The offense moved the ball because Orton was under center. Not Palko or Cassel.

Did Haley's spat with Pioli effect his judgment on QB? Yea. It hurt the team too.

Do we play like this with Orton under center and Haley as coach? I see no reason to believe otherwise.

People are blinded by the win but if you look at what happened there was nothing ground breaking aside from better QB play.

What else happened that was so different?
The playcalling was better.

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Old 12-18-2011, 04:25 PM   #75
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Nope I just think the issues went much farther than Haley.

Lets not act like we didn't win some big games with Haley as coach.

The defense was huge today and they have been playing like that for some time though a bit inconsistent at times due to offensive ineptitude.

The offense moved the ball because Orton was under center. Not Palko or Cassel.

Did Haley's spat with Pioli effect his judgment on QB? Yea. It hurt the team too.

Do we play like this with Orton under center and Haley as coach? I see no reason to believe otherwise.

People are blinded by the win but if you look at what happened there was nothing ground breaking aside from better QB play.

What else happened that was so different?

Although we disagree, at least you gave us an explanation.


Remove yourself from my previous post.
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