Suicide?

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Phobia

We've had people vent a lot. Don't think they post "I'm considering offing myself and I know it's the right thing to do..." and then disappear. That's what sealed it for me. If you wanna stick around and talk it out, we're all about that. But don't post "I'm gonna kill myself" and then nothing.

I think there are a lot of genuinely decent people out on this site who care about one another. I hope Brian takes it as "we care" rather than, "why the hell did you guys track me down?"

I didn't see specifically where he said he was considering it. I thought I read that he thought about it often. We all have had thoughts, daily thoughts about things that we would never consider doing.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

I didn't see specifically where he said he was considering it. I thought I read that he thought about it often. We all have had thoughts, daily thoughts about things that we would never consider doing.

I'm not a psychiatrist but the phrasing and structure were a lot more ominous for me than they were for you. Combine that with his immediate departure and I was genuinely worried.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I'm not a psychiatrist but the phrasing and structure were a lot more ominous for me than they were for you. Combine that with his immediate departure and I was genuinely worried.

I think you did the right thing. Its a whole lot easier to live with thinking "maybe I did too much" than "maybe I didn't do enough."

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I'm not a psychiatrist but the phrasing and structure were a lot more ominous for me than they were for you. Combine that with his immediate departure and I was genuinely worried.

Maybe that was all he needed to vent. Maybe he really is considering it. Too little information to make a determination for me.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

Maybe that was all he needed to vent. Maybe he really is considering it. Too little information to make a determination for me.

If you say, "I think about killing myself all the time" and "It's the right thing to do" it went a little beyond venting for me. I'm going to reach out personally.

Had an acquaintance post on facebook a few nights ago that his life was over because his baby momma took his kid away from him. He said he was gonna go out with a bang and "look for me on the news". I called his ass up at 1:00 AM. Told him that if he was serious then I would help him find some professional help but if he was just venting that he needed to delete that crap from facebook because all it proved was that the judge made the right decision.

These situations are tough but I'm not going to spectate if somebody needs help. That's definitely not the right thing.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Phobia

If you say, "I think about killing myself all the time" and "It's the right thing to do" it went a little beyond venting for me. I'm going to reach out personally.

Had an acquaintance post on facebook a few nights ago that his life was over because his baby momma took his kid away from him. He said he was gonna go out with a bang and "look for me on the news". I called his ass up at 1:00 AM. Told him that if he was serious then I would help him find some professional help but if he was just venting that he needed to delete that crap from facebook because all it proved was that the judge made the right decision.

These situations are tough but I'm not going to spectate if somebody needs help. That's definitely not the right thing.

You made your choice. I don't have a real problem with it. There is the possibility that the outcome wasn't rose petals and honey biscuits though.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

I didn't see specifically where he said he was considering it. I thought I read that he thought about it often. We all have had thoughts, daily thoughts about things that we would never consider doing.

That's the problem, though. He talks about it, then bails on the board.

You don't really know what he's thinking or doing. All you know is that he's in a dark place and thinking about it.

My concern was heightened when I looked up some old threads of his and found the one where he talks about his long-term battle with alcoholism. As I'm sure you are aware, there's a link between alcohol and drug abuse and suicide.

Regardless, the right thing was done under the circumstances and even if he was just ruminating, this might lead him to start dealing with some of his problem(s) ... which he obviously has.

FAX

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by FAX

That's the problem, though. He talks about it, then bails on the board.

You don't really know what he's thinking or doing. All you know is that he's in a dark place and thinking about it.

My concern was heightened when I looked up some old threads of his and found the one where he talks about his long-term battle with alcoholism. As I'm sure you are aware, there's a link between alcohol and drug abuse and suicide.

Regardless, the right thing was done under the circumstances and even if he was just ruminating, this might lead him to start dealing with some of his problem(s) ... which he obviously has.

FAX

I hope he gets the help he wants and is able to overcome his issues. But it will be solely up to him to accomplish that. Not a phone call.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

I hope he gets the help he wants and is able to overcome his issues. But it will be solely up to him to accomplish that. Not a phone call.

Was anybody really making the phone call sound that epic? We were just telling him we thought it was the right thing to do when there were a couple of posts wondering if somebody should call or not.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Was anybody really making the phone call sound that epic? We were just telling him we thought it was the right thing to do when there were a couple of posts wondering if somebody should call or not.

Telling someone that was the right thing to do is giving kudos. There is the possibility the outcome of the phone call may not end up as great as one believes. Then again he may laugh at it and say "you dolt's, why to you have to bring the law to my house?"

Then again he may say thank you for concern.

We may never know

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

Telling someone that was the right thing to do is giving kudos. There is the possibility the outcome of the phone call may not end up as great as one believes. Then again he may laugh at it and say "you dolt's, why to you have to bring the law to my house?"

Then again he may say thank you for concern.

We may never know

There is a difference between saying hey you are the man for doing that and saying you did the right thing WHEN some posts question whether you should call or not at such a late hour.

Whatever I guess. I didn't think it was so much that you needed to make two references to it and I certainly don't think this is worth arguing about either.

[lostcause]

Suicide is neither selfish or cowardly, if we truly have one control over ourselves it is choosing to live over dying.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

There is a difference between saying hey you are the man for doing that and saying you did the right thing WHEN some posts question whether you should call or not at such a late hour.

Whatever I guess. I didn't think it was so much that you needed to make two references to it and I certainly don't think this is worth arguing about either.

I'm not arguing. I'm simply discussing that things aren't always what we assume them to be. Nobody knows this guys intentions. It very well may have opened a whole new set of problems for him. But as previously stated by another poster. That would be all his fault.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

Telling someone that was the right thing to do is giving kudos. There is the possibility the outcome of the phone call may not end up as great as one believes. Then again he may laugh at it and say "you dolt's, why to you have to bring the law to my house?"

Then again he may say thank you for concern.

We may never know

Better safe than sorry.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by MotherLover

Better safe than sorry.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.