Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games

[luv]

So, if Orton starts, we have to keep Cassel, and we draft a QB in April, then we can dump Palko (thank goodness) and drop Stanzi. I really wish we could have seen a bit more of Stanzi this year.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by luv

So, if Orton starts, we have to keep Cassel, and we draft a QB in April, we can dump Palko (thank goodness) and drop Stanzi. I really wish we could have seen a bit more of Stanzi this year.

I certainly don't think that's a foregone conclusion. If Pioli signs Orton to an extension, I think it could very well signal the end of Cassel. And there is certainly nothing to suggest that they would have to dump Stanzi either.

[luv]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I certainly don't think that's a foregone conclusion. If Pioli signs Orton to an extension, I think it could very well signal the end of Cassel. And there is certainly nothing to suggest that they would have to dump Stanzi either.

Okay. I was just under the impression that we would have to keep him. If Orton gets an extension, and we can get rid of Cassel....I still would be more comfortable keeping Stanzi as a backup if we'd seen more from him this season. Damn it, Haley!

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by luv

Okay. I was just under the impression that we would have to keep him. If Orton gets an extension, and we can get rid of Cassel....I still would be more comfortable keep Stanzi as a backup if we'd seen more from him this season. Damn it, Haley!

Oh great, now you had to give me something else to worry about.

They have a ready-made excuse (thanks a lot Haley!) to bring Cassel back because we need a "proven" backup.

[luv]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Oh great, now you had to give me something else to worry about.

They have a ready-made excuse (thanks a lot Haley!) to bring Cassel back because we need a "proven" backup.

Yep. That's what I was thinking as I typed out my response. I don't see them permanently moving Stanzi up the depth chart with him being an unknown....unless they see a lot during practice and camp. If Orton gets an extension, I don't see us letting Cassel go (unfortunately).

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I certainly don't think that's a foregone conclusion. If Pioli signs Orton to an extension, I think it could very well signal the end of Cassel. And there is certainly nothing to suggest that they would have to dump Stanzi either.

Yep, I can't help remember how Beldsoe was run out of town after Brady took over. If Orton were to capture the job I could see the Chiefs keeping Cassel as backup for a year just to give Pioli and Crennel an opportunity to ensure Orton is for real. Orton is definitely bringing excitement to what had become a letdown season.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Yep, I can't help remember how Beldsoe was run out of town after Brady took over. If Orton were to capture the job I could see the Chiefs keeping Cassel as backup for a year just to give Pioli and Crennel an opportunity to ensure Orton is for real. Orton is definitely bringing excitement to what had become a letdown season.

That's not their style. They could've let Cassell play under the tag for a season before hitting them with their monster deal. They chose to jump the gun.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by MotherLover

That's not their style. They could've let Cassell play under the tag for a season before hitting them with their monster deal. They chose to jump the gun.

They had 11ty billion in cap room.

If you were going to lock him up to a long term deal they were genius in the structure if not the amount...

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by MotherLover

That's not their style. They could've let Cassell play under the tag for a season before hitting them with their monster deal. They chose to jump the gun.

In the interview with Hunt, Pioli asked why the team had so little success in the playoffs since the early 70's? Pioli was making a point to Hunt that so little success for such a long period was a sign of a endemic problem existing throughout all levels of the organization not just on the team. Ever wonder why he only keep two scouts from the old organization (Willie Davis being one)? Because they were the only two that showed a serious desire to learn a new method. Pioli was given a go and Pioli literally cleaned house after the 2009 draft.

What does this have to do with Cassel? He was the first step in creating the "right 53" or the "we can find 22 players off the street that can win more than two games"? They must have believed Cassel had already demonstrated in New England what they wanted in the new QB. Pioli and Belichick did the same thing with Bledsoe, brought him in first year then had no problem replacing him with Brady. The question, does Pioli and Crennel believe Orton is an upgrade over Cassel? If they do, based on Pioli's history, I don't think they will hesitate replacing Cassel with Orton.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by doomy3

And there is certainly nothing to suggest that they would have to dump Stanzi either.

yep, Stanzi has never played with our starters, so they really dont know how good he could be..
Cassel and Palko have and failed, the Chiefs need to keep Stanzi over both these guys.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Looks like Corky - plays like DeBerg...