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Old 12-21-2011, 01:15 PM  
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Shefter: The 1st pick is worth ...
3 first round picks and two 2nd round picks ... maybe four 1st round picks.

He was talking about how the Rams might just end up with the 1st pick because they play the 49ers and Steelers but the Colts play the jags and texans.

first pick tie would be decided by SOS

his opinion anyway
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:33 PM   #106
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The Rams aren't trading Sam Bradford.
They aren't getting the 1st pick either.

Don't they lose the tiebreakers? They need Indy to win out AND the Vikings to win 1.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:36 PM   #107
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They aren't getting the 1st pick either.

Don't they lose the tiebreakers? They need Indy to win out AND the Vikings to win 1.
Pretty much.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:53 PM   #108
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Say the vikes grt the first pick would they trade it or just take Luck. Gotta say Im not opposed to trading up but thats alot of picks.it could be argued that Luck would be more valuable than whoever you get with the picks you give up tho.


I would rather trade up for Barkley or rgIII but either way os fine with me
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:57 PM   #109
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The Rams aren't trading Sam Bradford.
If you get the first pick, how do you not trade Sam Bradford? Luck is a better prospect, and will be cheaper than Bradford, given the new CBA. Trade him to Cleveland for their first and reunite him with Shurmur.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:01 PM   #110
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IMO if it were three years ago id say draft RGIII and let him develop with the talent. If you get the three back healthy,with some depth and a few pieces this team is talented to have about a 4 year window. We need the most NFL prepared guy that can come in and get up to speed quick.


IMO its luck or barkley
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:08 PM   #111
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Not sure if its been said yet....If its going to cost that much you can wheel n deal with other teams 1st rounds losing either players+picks. We had 2 with Doresy and Albert. Thus obtaining 1-2 more 1st rounds from other teams you can trade those picks or keep em. It's manageable, but a shot in the dark.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:09 PM   #112
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Not sure if its been said yet....If its going to cost that much you can wheel n deal with other teams 1st rounds losing either players+picks. We had 2 with Doresy and Albert. Thus obtaining 1-2 more 1st rounds from other teams you can trade those picks or keep em. It's manageable, but a shot in the dark.
Good luck getting a 1st round pick for Dorsey OR Albert.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:03 AM   #113
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What about Dbowe, 1st & 2nd this year aswell as 1st & a conditional 2nd-4th next? Fills one of the biggest needs for them with a proven comodity and gives them some extra picks this and next year. KC can resign Carr and has a franchise QB.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:59 AM   #114
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What about Dbowe, 1st & 2nd this year aswell as 1st & a conditional 2nd-4th next? Fills one of the biggest needs for them with a proven comodity and gives them some extra picks this and next year. KC can resign Carr and has a franchise QB.
Brandon Marshall was traded for 2-2nds BTW. Bowe would not bring back 2 1sts and 2 2nds. Bevis was right....crack was given for Christmas
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:49 AM   #115
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Good luck getting a 1st round pick for Dorsey OR Albert.
I believe he is saying we had 2 #1 picks that year.
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Brandon Marshall was traded for 2-2nds BTW. Bowe would not bring back 2 1sts and 2 2nds. Bevis was right....crack was given for Christmas

Brandon Marshall didn't set the bar for max compensation on a WR. The two seconds was due to him being a headcase in training camp, and the Donks cutting their losses before the compensation was even less.

Now, I'm not saying we'de get multiple first and second picks. But, Bowe's worth at least one first and one second rounder IMO. I'de much rather keep Bowe, but if trading him means we land Luck, then pull the trigger before the ink dried on the contract proposal.
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Brandon Marshall was traded for 2-2nds BTW. Bowe would not bring back 2 1sts and 2 2nds. Bevis was right....crack was given for Christmas
I ment more like:

Dbowe + 9th pick 2012 + 41 pick 2012 + 1st round chiefs pick 2013 + 2-4th round chiefs pick 2013 = rough worth of 1st pick St.Louis 2012 (Luck).

Then STL get bowe for the price of a first rounder seeing he is a need for them and not a headcase like Marshall. Making the trade have the worth of 3 1st and 2 second.
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I ment more like:

Dbowe + 9th pick 2012 + 41 pick 2012 + 1st round chiefs pick 2013 + 2-4th round chiefs pick 2013 = rough worth of 1st pick St.Louis 2012 (Luck).

Then STL get bowe for the price of a first rounder seeing he is a need for them and not a headcase like Marshall. Making the trade have the worth of 3 1st and 2 second.
On my part. Looks like I had crack for Christmas.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:07 AM   #119
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If you get the first pick, how do you not trade Sam Bradford? Luck is a better prospect, and will be cheaper than Bradford, given the new CBA. Trade him to Cleveland for their first and reunite him with Shurmur.
Because his contract is not something teams are going to shell out draft picks to take on.

If he had the new rookie scale deal, then yes, Bradford would be on the first bus out, but between the hit the Rams take, and the financial obligation to the new team, it's not even worth it.
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Because his contract is not something teams are going to shell out draft picks to take on.

If he had the new rookie scale deal, then yes, Bradford would be on the first bus out, but between the hit the Rams take, and the financial obligation to the new team, it's not even worth it.
what are you talking about?

His contract is cheap as **** from here on out.

He has 4 years left and his highest paid year is the last, at a whopping 3.7 million.

Most of the big money of his deal was front loaded.

He can still make a lot of money in the last 4 years, but it is almost all performance and achievement based.

If we can't get Luck or RG3, trading for Bradford would be an excellent move.
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