Matt Barkley To Announce 2012 NFL Draft Decision At 4 P.M. Press Conference

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by tk13

I already thought RGIII was going to shoot up the board, now he definitely will.

Good news is, if you were worried the Chiefs were winning meaningless games and hurting their draft position... now it might not even matter. You just never know.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not rocket science. None of the top 3 QB (now 2) is falling to us, most likely. We can certainly draft a QB in the 1st round, but it's probably going to be a guy that would've been there anyway. We're going to be picking in a position to reach like teams reached for Ponder or Freeman the past couple years.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by tk13

It's not rocket science. None of the top 3 QB (now 2) is falling to us, most likely. We can certainly draft a QB in the 1st round, but it's probably going to be a guy that would've been there anyway. We're going to be picking in a position to reach like teams reached for Ponder or Freeman the past couple years.

Which assumes the impossibility of a trade up if our draft spot were top ten. The precise reason why the SD and Chicago wins were pointless is because of where it puts us right now. Barkley's decision doesn't validate those wins, it shows how damaging they were.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Which assumes the impossibility of a trade up if our draft spot were top ten. The precise reason why the SD and Chicago wins were pointless is because of where it puts us right now. Barkley's decision doesn't validate those wins, it shows how damaging they were.

every win is pointless if you don't win the Super Bowl

so for the drafturbators it's 0-16 or Super Bowl...those are the only two acceptable outcomes

teams don't play to lose...Herm got that right

people need to get over that

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Short Leash Hootie

every win is pointless if you don't win the Super Bowl

so for the drafturbators it's 0-16 or Super Bowl...those are the only two acceptable outcomes

teams don't play to lose...Herm got that right

people need to get over that

This is also false.

Teams have to learn how to compete, there is no doubt, but without a QB you aren't going to be able to compete. If we were fortunate enough to start a rookie QB, I'd fight tooth and nail for every win in a 4-12 or 5-11 season, no matter its impact on draft position. But until we get that QB, we're stuck in neutral.

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is also false.

Teams have to learn how to compete, there is no doubt, but without a QB you aren't going to be able to compete. If we were fortunate enough to start a rookie QB, I'd fight tooth and nail for every win in a 4-12 or 5-11 season, no matter its impact on draft position. But until we get that QB, we're stuck in neutral.

My thoughts exactly.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Which assumes the impossibility of a trade up if our draft spot were top ten. The precise reason why the SD and Chicago wins were pointless is because of where it puts us right now. Barkley's decision doesn't validate those wins, it shows how damaging they were.

I get this franchise QB or bust argument. However, saying that any wins are pointless because it takes us out of discussion for (player A) right now is absurd.

The QB is stocked with 2 franchise QBs now. There are too many variables that can happen in the draft where even if we lost both those weeks that those players wouldn't be available due to either someone in the top 3 taking Griffin after Luck, or a team trading up and giving a king's ransom to do so.

I just can't buy any argument that says wins are damaging to a franchise.