Chiefs Todd Haley going back to the Cardinals? - Page 2

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:00 PM

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Hearing Todd Haley is on the Cardinals radar .... the plot thickens. #justsayin

Cardinals plan to speak with Haley about return

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to talk to former Chiefs coach Todd Haley about a position on the Cardinals coaching staff, according to NFL sources.

Haley, the Cardinals offensive coordinator from 2007 through 2009, was fired by the Chiefs in December when the Chiefs had a 5-8 record. Haley was 19-27 as a head coach and his Chiefs team won the AFC West title in 2010.

Haley and Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt have been friends for years, and Haley was offensive coordinator in 2008 and 2009 when the Cardinals won consecutive NFC West titles.

It’s unknown what title Haley would have should he return to the Cardinals, but he likely would be place in charge of the offense again.

The Cardinals have not been nearly as good on offense since Haley left, but his departure also coincided with the retirement of quarterback Kurt Warner. The Cardinals have had four different starting quarterbacks since Warner retired.

When Haley left, Mike Miller was promoted from receivers coach to passing game coordinator. Russ Grimm was assistant head coach/offensive line and run game coordinator. After that season, Miller was promoted to offensive coordinator, while Grimm remained assistant head coach. He continued to have a strong influence on the offensive game plan.

Whisenhunt would have to create a position for Haley, which would mean either re-organizing his existing coaching staff or adding a coach.

Haley is fiery and emotional, and several Cardinals players, including receiver Larry Fitzgerald, credit Haley with challenging them to become better players.

Haley, however, can be an acquired taste, and not everyone develops it. Haley and Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli reportedly had a contentious relationship, a factor that played into Haley’s dismissal.

**Shogun** · 01-05-2012, 06:52 PM

Haley vs Fisher - The Mediocre Bowl

**RealSNR** · 01-05-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

You wanna suck off Fisher but he took over a good roster 7-9,8-8,8-8

Haley took over a crap roster 4-12,10-6,5-7 all with GM that wouldn't leave him alone.

I will repeat this on this forum whenever people bring up Haley.

You don't put your confidence in Tyler ****ing Palko and expect people to respect you. It's a rule of business, and if it's not, then it should be.

That one action alone is what deserved to get him fired, if not for all his other bullshit.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-05-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Are we seriously debating Haley vs Fisher?

Neither have won a SB. What is there to debate?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-05-2012, 06:55 PM

No coach will ever be any good with Pioli as the GM. Your boy fisher talked with him for about 2 hours and he was running for the door.

**BossChief** · 01-05-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Amusing. He isn't going to be a HC again for a long time, if ever.

Care to make a wager?

I bet he is a head coach again by the 2014 season unless he decides to take this year off paid.

If he coaches this year, I don't think the Chiefs have to pay him. If that's right, he should sit.

If that is the case, it bumps till 2015.

Basically I'm saying that after 2 years of coaching, he will get another head coaching job.

Game?

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-05-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I will repeat this on this forum whenever people bring up Haley.

You don't put your confidence in Tyler ****ing Palko and expect people to respect you. It's a rule of business, and if it's not, then it should be.

That one action alone is what deserved to get him fired, if not for all his other bullshit.

He stuck with Palko because he knew he was done anyway and just said **** it. That's my view.

**HemiEd** · 01-05-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

He will be a HC again.

I agree, he has a lot of strong points

**Shogun** · 01-05-2012, 07:01 PM

As a wise man once said. Jeff Fisher could make a 6-10 team to 8-8, and could take a 10-6 team to 8-8.

**BossChief** · 01-05-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

I will repeat this on this forum whenever people bring up Haley.

You don't put your confidence in Tyler ****ing Palko and expect people to respect you. It's a rule of business, and if it's not, then it should be.

That one action alone is what deserved to get him fired, if not for all his other bullshit.

while I agree, we don't really know how far Piolis power trip went.

If Orton never breaks his finger, Haley may still be our head coach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

No coach will ever be any good with Pioli as the GM.

Haha

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-05-2012, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

As a wise man once said. Jeff Fisher could make a 6-10 team to 8-8, and could take a 10-6 team to 8-8.

Yup

Royal Fanatic · 01-05-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

while I agree, we don't really know how far Piolis power trip went.

If Orton never breaks his finger, Haley may still be our head coach.

Haha

I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Neither have won a SB. What is there to debate?

142 wins vs gets blown out 1/3 of the time...

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2012, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Care to make a wager?

I bet he is a head coach again by the 2014 season unless he decides to take this year off paid.

If he coaches this year, I don't think the Chiefs have to pay him. If that's right, he should sit.

If that is the case, it bumps till 2015.

Basically I'm saying that after 2 years of coaching, he will get another head coaching job.

Game?

Yep.

As soon as he's a head coach again you can have my sig for a year.

It ain't ever happening.

**Easy 6** · 01-05-2012, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

I will repeat this on this forum whenever people bring up Haley.

You don't put your confidence in Tyler ****ing Palko and expect people to respect you. It's a rule of business, and if it's not, then it should be.

That one action alone is what deserved to get him fired, if not for all his other bullshit.

As much as i truly liked many elements of Haleys style, its impossible to do anything but agree with this post.

That decision was epically bad, he must've fell in love with the fact that Palko looked like he might actually be an NFL qb... looking a defense off, didnt totally piss himself under pressure, looked mostly calm & in control, wasnt Matt Cassel... yep, he could do everything but throw the damn ball.

In no way was he the best option to 'win a game', Haley should've known better.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2012, 07:15 PM

The fact that Haley's only job prospect right now is Arizona is telling.

I bet he's not even viewed as a good OC choice around the league.

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