Chiefs Todd Haley going back to the Cardinals? - Page 3

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:00 PM

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Hearing Todd Haley is on the Cardinals radar .... the plot thickens. #justsayin

Cardinals plan to speak with Haley about return

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to talk to former Chiefs coach Todd Haley about a position on the Cardinals coaching staff, according to NFL sources.

Haley, the Cardinals offensive coordinator from 2007 through 2009, was fired by the Chiefs in December when the Chiefs had a 5-8 record. Haley was 19-27 as a head coach and his Chiefs team won the AFC West title in 2010.

Haley and Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt have been friends for years, and Haley was offensive coordinator in 2008 and 2009 when the Cardinals won consecutive NFC West titles.

It’s unknown what title Haley would have should he return to the Cardinals, but he likely would be place in charge of the offense again.

The Cardinals have not been nearly as good on offense since Haley left, but his departure also coincided with the retirement of quarterback Kurt Warner. The Cardinals have had four different starting quarterbacks since Warner retired.

When Haley left, Mike Miller was promoted from receivers coach to passing game coordinator. Russ Grimm was assistant head coach/offensive line and run game coordinator. After that season, Miller was promoted to offensive coordinator, while Grimm remained assistant head coach. He continued to have a strong influence on the offensive game plan.

Whisenhunt would have to create a position for Haley, which would mean either re-organizing his existing coaching staff or adding a coach.

Haley is fiery and emotional, and several Cardinals players, including receiver Larry Fitzgerald, credit Haley with challenging them to become better players.

Haley, however, can be an acquired taste, and not everyone develops it. Haley and Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli reportedly had a contentious relationship, a factor that played into Haley’s dismissal.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-05-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

The fact that Haley's only job prospect right now is Arizona is telling.

I bet he's not even viewed as a good OC choice around the league.

I'm getting ready to remove my sig its been almost a week and you have the same sig.

Brock · 01-05-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

He will be a HC again.

Never.

**BossChief** · 01-05-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

142 wins vs gets blown out 1/3 of the time...

Jeff Fishers 2009 team got blown out just as bad and at times far worse.

30-10 to Dallas
31-9 to Indy
37-17 to Jacksonville
59-0 to NE

Those were all in the first 6 games (all losses), till Vince Young came in and saved his sorry ass and the team went 8-2 the rest of the way to finish the year 8-8.

How many more times would he have been blown out that year if he didn't have VY?

**** Jeff Fisher. We know he is a hair above average with no real chance to get into the top tier....there are a few guys out there that have that potential and I would hope that's the direction we are in.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

I'm getting ready to remove my sig its been almost a week and you have the same sig.

That's not my problem dipshit.

Someone has to PROVIDE ME WITH A SIG.

It's not my responsibility to provide the sig myself.

**BossChief** · 01-05-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

I'm getting ready to remove my sig its been almost a week and you have the same sig.

Bitch made poster makes bitch made post. If you make a deal, you stick to it.

Nobody has to redeem a lottery ticket the first day they find out it's a winner.

You want to make a avatar for him?

I'll tell you what I want it to be, but I can't make it on my phone and my computer is out of commission for a few days.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2012, 07:36 PM

Get 4th and Long to make it, he hates me.

Urc Burry · 01-05-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

You wanna suck off Fisher but he took over a good roster 7-9,8-8,8-8

Haley took over a crap roster 4-12,10-6,5-7 all with GM that wouldn't leave him alone.

Yeah Pioli is the reason we lose the first two games by a combined 89-10, to the ****ing bills and lions

Okie_Apparition · 01-05-2012, 08:01 PM

Once you go red...

ToxSocks · 01-05-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

That's not my problem dipshit.

Someone has to PROVIDE ME WITH A SIG.

It's not my responsibility to provide the sig myself.

I'll provide you with a sig. What's it suppose to say?

**Gonzo** · 01-05-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Yep.

As soon as he's a head coach again you can have my sig for a year.

It ain't ever happening.

College and pro or just pro?
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O.city · 01-05-2012, 08:13 PM

There is no way he is a head coach again.

He was a ****ing disaster.

-King- · 01-05-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

No coach will ever be any good with Pioli as the GM. Your boy fisher talked with him for about 2 hours and he was running for the door.

What the hell is your infatuation with a guy that threw games? Any coach that throws games under ANY circumstances does not deserve another head coaching job.

Simply Red · 01-05-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I will repeat this on this forum whenever people bring up Haley.

You don't put your confidence in Tyler ****ing Palko and expect people to respect you. It's a rule of business, and if it's not, then it should be.

That one action alone is what deserved to get him fired, if not for all his other bullshit.

Why do you hate Lil' Wayne Concerts?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 01-05-2012, 08:32 PM

Maybe he'll take Palko with him.

Lightrise · 01-05-2012, 08:32 PM

Well I liked Haley and I also agree the biggest barrier was Pioli. Haley deserves a ton of credit for changing culture, helping turn around Bowe and Johnson too. His late hire made it impossible to hire a staff and he did the right thing dumping the OC even if it was at the last minute, had to be done. The lockout made it impossible to get Stanzi prepared and while Palko was a disaster, he just didn't have enough time to complete the job. He deserved another year, and I'm quite sure that he was very annoyed with Cassel, not the kind of QB he wants. We may get stuck with Crennel and perhaps he is the right guy for now, but Pioli and Hunt should have let him fight through it. History on these kind of promotions is not favorable either. We shall see, but somebody who eventually takes a chance on Haley again is going to benefit. Those darn injuries were devastating, and it he still managed to get us back in the hunt. My biggest problem with Haley was the Muir promotion, but Weis complicated that too. Then Baldwin screwed up as well, and the 09 draft class was horrible anyway. Hunt is going to learn a lesson here, you decide what the 'Chief's way is, not import a cultural 'way' from some other organization, total crap.

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1296009	Todd Haley going back to the Cardinals? mikejureckiMike Jurecki Hearing Todd Haley is on the Cardinals radar .... the plot thickens. #justsayin Cardinals plan to speak with Haley about return Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to talk to former Chiefs coach Todd Haley about a position on the Cardinals coaching staff, according to NFL sources. Haley, the Cardinals offensive coordinator from 2007 through 2009, was fired by the Chiefs in December when the Chiefs had a 5-8 record. Haley was 19-27 as a head coach and his Chiefs team won the AFC West title in 2010. Haley and Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt have been friends for years, and Haley was offensive coordinator in 2008 and 2009 when the Cardinals won consecutive NFC West titles. It’s unknown what title Haley would have should he return to the Cardinals, but he likely would be place in charge of the offense again. The Cardinals have not been nearly as good on offense since Haley left, but his departure also coincided with the retirement of quarterback Kurt Warner. The Cardinals have had four different starting quarterbacks since Warner retired. When Haley left, Mike Miller was promoted from receivers coach to passing game coordinator. Russ Grimm was assistant head coach/offensive line and run game coordinator. After that season, Miller was promoted to offensive coordinator, while Grimm remained assistant head coach. He continued to have a strong influence on the offensive game plan. Whisenhunt would have to create a position for Haley, which would mean either re-organizing his existing coaching staff or adding a coach. Haley is fiery and emotional, and several Cardinals players, including receiver Larry Fitzgerald, credit Haley with challenging them to become better players. Haley, however, can be an acquired taste, and not everyone develops it. Haley and Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli reportedly had a contentious relationship, a factor that played into Haley’s dismissal. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 01-05-2012 at 11:00 PM..
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Lightrise Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Casino cash: $10005085	Well I liked Haley and I also agree the biggest barrier was Pioli. Haley deserves a ton of credit for changing culture, helping turn around Bowe and Johnson too. His late hire made it impossible to hire a staff and he did the right thing dumping the OC even if it was at the last minute, had to be done. The lockout made it impossible to get Stanzi prepared and while Palko was a disaster, he just didn't have enough time to complete the job. He deserved another year, and I'm quite sure that he was very annoyed with Cassel, not the kind of QB he wants. We may get stuck with Crennel and perhaps he is the right guy for now, but Pioli and Hunt should have let him fight through it. History on these kind of promotions is not favorable either. We shall see, but somebody who eventually takes a chance on Haley again is going to benefit. Those darn injuries were devastating, and it he still managed to get us back in the hunt. My biggest problem with Haley was the Muir promotion, but Weis complicated that too. Then Baldwin screwed up as well, and the 09 draft class was horrible anyway. Hunt is going to learn a lesson here, you decide what the 'Chief's way is, not import a cultural 'way' from some other organization, total crap.
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