Todd Haley going back to the Cardinals?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

mikejureckiMike Jurecki

Hearing Todd Haley is on the Cardinals radar .... the plot thickens. #justsayin


Cardinals plan to speak with Haley about return

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to talk to former Chiefs coach Todd Haley about a position on the Cardinals coaching staff, according to NFL sources.

Haley, the Cardinals offensive coordinator from 2007 through 2009, was fired by the Chiefs in December when the Chiefs had a 5-8 record. Haley was 19-27 as a head coach and his Chiefs team won the AFC West title in 2010.

Haley and Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt have been friends for years, and Haley was offensive coordinator in 2008 and 2009 when the Cardinals won consecutive NFC West titles.

It’s unknown what title Haley would have should he return to the Cardinals, but he likely would be place in charge of the offense again.

The Cardinals have not been nearly as good on offense since Haley left, but his departure also coincided with the retirement of quarterback Kurt Warner. The Cardinals have had four different starting quarterbacks since Warner retired.

When Haley left, Mike Miller was promoted from receivers coach to passing game coordinator. Russ Grimm was assistant head coach/offensive line and run game coordinator. After that season, Miller was promoted to offensive coordinator, while Grimm remained assistant head coach. He continued to have a strong influence on the offensive game plan.

Whisenhunt would have to create a position for Haley, which would mean either re-organizing his existing coaching staff or adding a coach.

Haley is fiery and emotional, and several Cardinals players, including receiver Larry Fitzgerald, credit Haley with challenging them to become better players.

Haley, however, can be an acquired taste, and not everyone develops it. Haley and Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli reportedly had a contentious relationship, a factor that played into Haley’s dismissal.

[Rasputin]

Hope Haley takes Palko with him...

They are meant for each other.

[Simply Red]

I absolutely bet some dumbass roles the dice w/ Haley in the future, as HC.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Some of you clowns blaming Haley for Palko are the same ones who were perfectly content with Herm parading Brokie Crolye out there when Huard got hurt. Can you say double standard?

Brodie Croyle as a starter: 0-10
Tyler Palko.....1-3

[KCrockaholic]

All this QB drama just makes me wish we had kept Thiggy. He could run, throw, AND catch.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Some of you clowns blaming Haley for Palko are the same ones who were perfectly content with Herm parading Brokie Crolye out there when Huard got hurt. Can you say double standard?

Brodie Croyle as a starter: 0-10
Tyler Palko.....1-3

I'd take Brodie ANY ****ING DAY and twice on Sundays over Palko. And this is a moot argument because Herm didn't have any other QBs to go to. Haley had both Orton and Stanzi.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by Lightrise

Well I liked Haley and I also agree the biggest barrier was Pioli. Haley deserves a ton of credit for changing culture, helping turn around Bowe and Johnson too. His late hire made it impossible to hire a staff and he did the right thing dumping the OC even if it was at the last minute, had to be done. The lockout made it impossible to get Stanzi prepared and while Palko was a disaster, he just didn't have enough time to complete the job. He deserved another year, and I'm quite sure that he was very annoyed with Cassel, not the kind of QB he wants. We may get stuck with Crennel and perhaps he is the right guy for now, but Pioli and Hunt should have let him fight through it. History on these kind of promotions is not favorable either. We shall see, but somebody who eventually takes a chance on Haley again is going to benefit. Those darn injuries were devastating, and it he still managed to get us back in the hunt. My biggest problem with Haley was the Muir promotion, but Weis complicated that too. Then Baldwin screwed up as well, and the 09 draft class was horrible anyway. Hunt is going to learn a lesson here, you decide what the 'Chief's way is, not import a cultural 'way' from some other organization, total crap.

A couple of issues here.....How is it impossible because of the lockout, for Stanzi to get "ready" when we saw what we did out of Cam Newton and Andy Dalton? Plus T.J. Yates finally got his chance after two others got hurt in front of him?
I don't know how Weis complicated the "Muir" promotion. Word was out before the regular season was over that year that Charlie was leaving so they had more time to find a replacement than any other normal year including the year Haley got hired.

It wasn't Hunt who decide which "way" to go. He hired Scott, paid him handsomely, $5 million per year if I recall right and let him do his job. He knew hiring him he would do things a certain way and probably agreed to that based on his track record.
If Pioli would have changed things all up once he got to KC and failed we would have been all over him worse than now.

Just my take.

[Royal Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Lightrise

Well I liked Haley and I also agree the biggest barrier was Pioli. Haley deserves a ton of credit for changing culture, helping turn around Bowe and Johnson too. His late hire made it impossible to hire a staff and he did the right thing dumping the OC even if it was at the last minute, had to be done. The lockout made it impossible to get Stanzi prepared and while Palko was a disaster, he just didn't have enough time to complete the job. He deserved another year, and I'm quite sure that he was very annoyed with Cassel, not the kind of QB he wants. We may get stuck with Crennel and perhaps he is the right guy for now, but Pioli and Hunt should have let him fight through it. History on these kind of promotions is not favorable either. We shall see, but somebody who eventually takes a chance on Haley again is going to benefit. Those darn injuries were devastating, and it he still managed to get us back in the hunt. My biggest problem with Haley was the Muir promotion, but Weis complicated that too. Then Baldwin screwed up as well, and the 09 draft class was horrible anyway. Hunt is going to learn a lesson here, you decide what the 'Chief's way is, not import a cultural 'way' from some other organization, total crap.

Aparagraphhereandtherewouldhavebeennice.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd take Brodie ANY ****ING DAY and twice on Sundays over Palko. And this is a moot argument because Herm didn't have any other QBs to go to. Haley had both Orton and Stanzi.

Orton had a crooked finger.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Dave

Orton had a crooked finger.

After he was put in in the 2nd quarter after palko had started the game.

[O.city]

Would anyone argue that with Orton playing hte way he did the last 3 games, had we had him just playing at that level all season we win the west.

Prob win 10 games.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Would anyone argue that with Orton playing hte way he did the last 3 games, had we had him just playing at that level all season we win the west.

Prob win 10 games.

dude if Orton would've started 5 games instead of 3 we would have won the west.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by MotherLover

dude if Orton would've started 5 games instead of 3 we would have won the west.

I still can't believe they could only score 7 points last week. The Day Muir officially retires I will JIMP.

**** the head coach search, i'm more anxious to see who'll be running the offense.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I still can't believe they could only score 7 points last week. The Day Muir officially retires I will JIMP.

**** the head coach search, i'm more anxious to see who'll be running the offense.

This.


We put up like 400 yards agains the pack and the Faid and only scored 19 and 13 points. Thats redic.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I still can't believe they could only score 7 points last week. The Day Muir officially retires I will JIMP.

**** the head coach search, i'm more anxious to see who'll be running the offense.

I agree. I personally think RC is head coach and zorn will be the OC. I think the DC will be filled in house and Special Teams coach will be from the outside.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by Lightrise

Well I liked Haley and I also agree the biggest barrier was Pioli. Haley deserves a ton of credit for changing culture, helping turn around Bowe and Johnson too. His late hire made it impossible to hire a staff and he did the right thing dumping the OC even if it was at the last minute, had to be done. The lockout made it impossible to get Stanzi prepared and while Palko was a disaster, he just didn't have enough time to complete the job. He deserved another year, and I'm quite sure that he was very annoyed with Cassel, not the kind of QB he wants. We may get stuck with Crennel and perhaps he is the right guy for now, but Pioli and Hunt should have let him fight through it. History on these kind of promotions is not favorable either. We shall see, but somebody who eventually takes a chance on Haley again is going to benefit. Those darn injuries were devastating, and it he still managed to get us back in the hunt. My biggest problem with Haley was the Muir promotion, but Weis complicated that too. Then Baldwin screwed up as well, and the 09 draft class was horrible anyway. Hunt is going to learn a lesson here, you decide what the 'Chief's way is, not import a cultural 'way' from some other organization, total crap.

See the people who think Haley is the main contributor to Bowe's and DJ's turnaround don't make much sense to me. DJ always had the potential, and I think he really thrived under Romeo. Bowe always was a beast. His rookie and 2nd season were pretty much identical to the last two seasons outside of the 15 touchdowns last year.

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Some of you clowns blaming Haley for Palko are the same ones who were perfectly content with Herm parading Brokie Crolye out there when Huard got hurt. Can you say double standard?

Brodie Croyle as a starter: 0-10
Tyler Palko.....1-3

There is a difference.. Brokie was a 3rd rounder and had a lot of potential but fell because he was injury prone. Our team was absolute garbage when he was starting, there is no getting around that. Tyler Palko is a bum from Arizona who couldn't even make in the CFL. No comparison at all