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Old 01-22-2008, 10:48 PM  
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Conversation between me and Clayton 11/05/07

Regarding Eli Manning:

Hootie2485 (1:59:29 AM): he will break every record Favre is setting other than the INT record
Hootie2485 (1:59:32 AM): that one is Favre's to keep
Hootie2485 (1:59:36 AM): you know who is impressing me this year
Hootie2485 (1:59:38 AM): Eli
bfett81 (1:59:42 AM): god no
bfett81 (1:59:43 AM): he sucks
Hootie2485 (1:59:45 AM): no way
Hootie2485 (1:59:47 AM): watch him
bfett81 (1:59:49 AM): he has like 9 picks
Hootie2485 (1:59:50 AM): he's getting there
bfett81 (1:59:52 AM): lame
Hootie2485 (1:59:55 AM): he really is
Hootie2485 (2:00:03 AM): he has a great arm, great pocket awareness, toughness
bfett81 (2:00:03 AM): piece of shit
Hootie2485 (2:00:07 AM): dude separates his shoulder
Hootie2485 (2:00:09 AM): plays the next week
bfett81 (2:00:09 AM): his weapons are playing well, that's it
Hootie2485 (2:00:13 AM): disagree
Hootie2485 (2:00:16 AM): watch a Giants game
Hootie2485 (2:00:18 AM): Eli is getting it done
Hootie2485 (2:00:22 AM): he makes good reads, too
Hootie2485 (2:00:27 AM): he will be a top 5 QB in no time...
Hootie2485 (2:00:28 AM): dude
bfett81 (2:00:29 AM): lol
Hootie2485 (2:00:32 AM): I thought Peyton was super overrated
Hootie2485 (2:00:33 AM): until 2003
Hootie2485 (2:00:38 AM): when I saw his greatness against the Chiefs
bfett81 (2:00:44 AM): eli manning - 58.2 %, 6.4 YPA, 13 TD, 9 INT
Hootie2485 (2:00:45 AM): Eli will never be Peyton
bfett81 (2:00:52 AM): with PLAXICO BURRESS, SHOCKEY AND TOOMER?
Hootie2485 (2:00:57 AM): Eli isn't going to be Peyton, but he is better than Rivers
Hootie2485 (2:00:59 AM): dude
bfett81 (2:01:02 AM): HUARD is beating eli in every category but TDs
Hootie2485 (2:01:04 AM): Shockey is overrated times 10
Hootie2485 (2:01:10 AM): Plaxico is a stud
Hootie2485 (2:01:13 AM): but Toomer is so-so
Hootie2485 (2:01:23 AM): just watch Eli a little...like Huard, sometimes the stats don't tell the story
bfett81 (2:01:28 AM): it's still a shitload of weapons, and jacobs and the OL are playing well
Hootie2485 (2:01:37 AM): Jacobs wasn't back until a few weeks ago
bfett81 (2:01:42 AM): 23rd ranked passing offense
bfett81 (2:01:46 AM): sorry, too many numbers against eli
Hootie2485 (2:01:46 AM): and Eli had to play that dumb stat killing game in London
Hootie2485 (2:01:53 AM): Just watch him play
Hootie2485 (2:01:58 AM): I'm not making this shit up
Hootie2485 (2:02:02 AM): Eli is going to be a really good QB
bfett81 (2:02:03 AM): he's crap
bfett81 (2:02:10 AM): you take away plaxico and he would look like a total bust
Hootie2485 (2:02:12 AM): I would give my left nut for Eli to be on the Chiefs
bfett81 (2:02:20 AM): half his TDs are just thrown up for grabs
Hootie2485 (2:02:24 AM): no way
Hootie2485 (2:02:29 AM): watch Plax's TDs
Hootie2485 (2:02:32 AM): he doesn't Moss them
bfett81 (2:02:36 AM): sure he does
Hootie2485 (2:02:39 AM): He had one where he ran most of the way which was awesome
bfett81 (2:02:41 AM): they tried one against miami
Hootie2485 (2:02:41 AM): no he doesn't
bfett81 (2:02:43 AM): just didn't catch it
Hootie2485 (2:02:47 AM): I'm sure they try it
Hootie2485 (2:02:54 AM): but I've seen him score the majority of his TD's this year
Hootie2485 (2:03:05 AM): and twice Plax did all the work with great catches
bfett81 (2:03:05 AM): find me one stat that says eli is worth a shit
bfett81 (2:03:10 AM): i bet his third down % sucks too
Hootie2485 (2:03:13 AM): dude
Hootie2485 (2:03:16 AM): just do me a favor
Hootie2485 (2:03:21 AM): watch the Giants when you get a chance
Hootie2485 (2:03:25 AM): and watch how Eli plays
bfett81 (2:03:26 AM): i've seen them like 3 times
Hootie2485 (2:03:27 AM): you'll be impressed
bfett81 (2:03:31 AM): he's balls
Hootie2485 (2:03:39 AM): we'll remember this conversation in a year
Hootie2485 (2:03:41 AM): and you'll laugh
Hootie2485 (2:03:46 AM): because Eli is on his way
bfett81 (2:03:46 AM): lol
Hootie2485 (2:03:52 AM): he is WAY BETTER than Rivers
Hootie2485 (2:03:57 AM): probably even Roetlisberger
bfett81 (2:04:00 AM): dude no way
bfett81 (2:04:08 AM): rivers is not nearly as mistake prone
Hootie2485 (2:04:10 AM): JUST WATCH
bfett81 (2:04:11 AM): except against KC
bfett81 (2:04:16 AM): and roethlisberger is a BEAST
bfett81 (2:04:20 AM): eli can't touch big ben
bfett81 (2:04:24 AM): in talent or production
Hootie2485 (2:04:39 AM): Just wait
Hootie2485 (2:04:43 AM): Eli is going to be awesome
Hootie2485 (2:04:51 AM): that's a Rick Houtteman guarantee
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:59 PM   #76
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More of Pootie's insecurities bubbling to the surface. I WAS ONCE RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING! LOOK! REALLY I WAS! SEE! I SAVED IT TO SHOW YOU! LOOK!

Except, actually, he was wrong. That's the amazing part. "Hey look, I was right about something"

"errr...no, really you weren't"
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #77
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I have an impeccable record when it comes to QB's on this site...

whether it was Huard/Green, Peyton Manning, Eli, Romo, Carson Palmer, etc...

you can say a lot about me on this site, but apparently I know good QB play when I see it

You were right when you said he was getting better. You should've stopped when you were ahead. Clayton said he sucks, which is wrong. That part you got him on. Then you went full reerun with better than Rivers/Rapelisberger...
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:01 PM   #78
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I have an impeccable record when it comes to QB's on this site...

whether it was Huard/Green, Peyton Manning, Eli, Romo, Carson Palmer, etc...

you can say a lot about me on this site, but apparently I know good QB play when I see it
You think Romo is good. No, you're not very accurate at all.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:04 PM   #81
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Let's back up. Comparing Manning (Eli) to Tom Brady is like comparing Kenny O'Brien to Joe ****ing Montana. Let's not bother.

Let's compare Eli to Rivers. That works well both because they both came out the same year, and YOU specifically said:



Completion %: Rivers 63.5% / Eli 58.2%

Yards: Identical, more or less, at 24,000

Yards Per Attempt (critical stat for success): Rivers 8.0 / Eli 6.9

TD/Ints: Rivers 163:78 / Eli 164:115

Fumbles (hidden QB stat): Rivers 52, lost 24 / Eli 67, lost 31

Rushing yards etc.: Wash -- neither one of these can run worth a damn -- both have 2.0 or less lifetime rushing average.


So there is not a SINGLE statistical category that Eli is better in than Rivers. Not one. Now, you could argue, and I would absolutely agree, that Rivers had had better offensive talent around him. Life is easier with a Tomlinson, a Gates, a VJax, etc. But IMHO Eli has had better defenses on average (giving him more possessions, and less pressure to win by himself) and better coaching (Norv Turner sucks as HC, no ifs, ands or buts about it).
THIS IS ****ING HYSTERICAL AMNORIX!

We used to do this exact same thing with Peyton and Tom...and Peyton had the numbers and Tom didn't! But it didn't matter, because Tom was a "winner"!

HELLO!

HELLO!

Hypocrite.

Hahahahaha
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I have an impeccable record when it comes to QB's on this site...

whether it was Huard/Green, Peyton Manning, Eli, Romo, Carson Palmer, etc...

you can say a lot about me on this site, but apparently I know good QB play when I see it
Yeah, you're a regular ****ing genious.

Maybe I'll bump your famous CUBS HAVE NO WEAKNESSES thread. Funny how the myriad of shit you were dead wrong about never gets any press.
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You think Romo is good. No, you're not very accurate at all.
Romo is a fantastic NFL QB...

if you think otherwise, you simply don't know what you're watching, or don't watch

plain and simple
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You were right when you said he was getting better. You should've stopped when you were ahead. Clayton said he sucks, which is wrong. That part you got him on. Then you went full reerun with better than Rivers/Rapelisberger...
he is better than Rivers

plain and simple

him and Roethlisberger are different types of QB's, but in the same tier...probably 4A and 4B
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Yeah, you're a regular ****ing genious.

Maybe I'll bump your famous CUBS HAVE NO WEAKNESSES thread. Funny how the myriad of shit you were dead wrong about never gets any press.
you're an idiot

when does the best team EVER win in the MLB postseason?

Just because the Cubs lost when they were the best team in baseball doesn't mean anything...

the Cardinals have won two WS where they were the last team in...they were just the hot team...

the MLB playoffs are a ****ing crapshoot...your team won, and you were too big of a pussy to watch most of the games because you're a bandwagon pussy of a fan
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it's a shame I have to go to work soon, I just want to again point out how hilarious it was for Amnorix to start throwing stats out on why Rivers is better than Eli, when 5 years ago he wouldn't listen to the stat argument regarding Peyton and Tom...

amazing Amnorix, simply amazing
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there is a thread on here where I said the Pats (and this was before Pollard hit Brady's knee) were a 12 win team with Cassel at QB and the Colts were a 2 win team with Peyton Manning (back during my Brady/Manning debates)...

no one would ever acknowledge that, either

and those posts are all archived on here as well

but hey I just have no idea what I'm talking about!!!
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:13 PM   #89
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Romo is a fantastic NFL QB...

if you think otherwise, you simply don't know what you're watching, or don't watch

plain and simple
Yeah, he's super fantastic and stuff.

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oh wow you proved a big time point there Brock! A .gif of Romo getting sacked by all-pro Jason Pierre-Paul! I guess Romo really is terrible!

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