Chiefs Todd Haley going back to the Cardinals? - Page 10

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:00 PM

mikejureckiMike Jurecki

Hearing Todd Haley is on the Cardinals radar .... the plot thickens. #justsayin

Cardinals plan to speak with Haley about return

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to talk to former Chiefs coach Todd Haley about a position on the Cardinals coaching staff, according to NFL sources.

Haley, the Cardinals offensive coordinator from 2007 through 2009, was fired by the Chiefs in December when the Chiefs had a 5-8 record. Haley was 19-27 as a head coach and his Chiefs team won the AFC West title in 2010.

Haley and Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt have been friends for years, and Haley was offensive coordinator in 2008 and 2009 when the Cardinals won consecutive NFC West titles.

It’s unknown what title Haley would have should he return to the Cardinals, but he likely would be place in charge of the offense again.

The Cardinals have not been nearly as good on offense since Haley left, but his departure also coincided with the retirement of quarterback Kurt Warner. The Cardinals have had four different starting quarterbacks since Warner retired.

When Haley left, Mike Miller was promoted from receivers coach to passing game coordinator. Russ Grimm was assistant head coach/offensive line and run game coordinator. After that season, Miller was promoted to offensive coordinator, while Grimm remained assistant head coach. He continued to have a strong influence on the offensive game plan.

Whisenhunt would have to create a position for Haley, which would mean either re-organizing his existing coaching staff or adding a coach.

Haley is fiery and emotional, and several Cardinals players, including receiver Larry Fitzgerald, credit Haley with challenging them to become better players.

Haley, however, can be an acquired taste, and not everyone develops it. Haley and Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli reportedly had a contentious relationship, a factor that played into Haley’s dismissal.

vASILII · 01-08-2012, 08:12 PM

It is not fair

Deberg_1990 · 01-08-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic

I call bullshit on this. It doesn't ring true because (1) Cassel played his best football when Weis was here, (2) Cassel turned to shit immediately after Weis announced that he was leaving, (3) Haley and Cassel never got along, and (4) Weis and Cassel got along great. Cassel sent Weis a text message congratulating him when Weis got the head coaching job at KU.

This sounds a lot more like revisionist history, and I would bet anything that Todd Haley was Charles Robinson's "source".

It just doesn't ring true.

Agree 100%. Cassel and the offense was really only good And consistent under Weis. The offense and Cassel sucked in 09 and 11 when Haley ran the O. iMO, Haley is a piece of crap that is unable to develop QBs, and extremely immature.

Titty Meat · 01-08-2012, 08:29 PM

Speaking of Haley: Wasn't he an advocate of taking away the safety coverage vs Tebow and instead stacking an extra man in the box? Worked well for Pittsburgh today.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-08-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Interesting minor point is that Weis evidently thought Cassel couldn't play...I wonder how many insiders have told Pioli similar things about Cassel, yet Pioli won't listen.

Which is incredible due to the fact that Pioli and BB were going to cut Cassel in 2008 if Kevin O'Connell showed anything in training camp.

He was literally one of the last people chosen for the team. Matt Guiterrez outplayed him badly in 08 preseason.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-11-2012, 07:46 PM

@JennyVrentas Jenny Vrentas
Todd Haley is arriving in New Jersey this evening; he will visit with the Jets tomorrow, per source. # nyj

If haley gets the job think the jets make a play for bowe?

O.city · 01-11-2012, 07:52 PM

Throw Haley into that toxic environment. WoW

I hope they get the Hard Knocks in there again. Shits goin down.

Titty Meat · 01-11-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

@JennyVrentas Jenny Vrentas
Todd Haley is arriving in New Jersey this evening; he will visit with the Jets tomorrow, per source. # nyj

If haley gets the job think the jets make a play for bowe?

They just gave Holmes 50 mil so I doubt it.

O.city · 01-11-2012, 07:55 PM

I'd venture to say if Bowe gets outta KC, he might end up in NE. Just a guess.

memyselfI · 01-11-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Throw Haley into that toxic environment. WoW

I hope they get the Hard Knocks in there again. Shits goin down.

Could be the NFL version of "Real Housewives" LOLOLOL

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-11-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Agree 100%. Cassel and the offense was really only good And consistent under Weis. The offense and Cassel sucked in 09 and 11 when Haley ran the O. iMO, Haley is a piece of crap that is unable to develop QBs, and extremely immature.

Awesome. I suppose this means Cassel is actually a good QB.

ChiefsCountry · 01-11-2012, 10:25 PM

Knowing the Chiefs awesome luck, Haley will coach Sanchez into a superstar.

Chief Roundup · 01-11-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

@JennyVrentas Jenny Vrentas
Todd Haley is arriving in New Jersey this evening; he will visit with the Jets tomorrow, per source. # nyj

If haley gets the job think the jets make a play for bowe?

What job is he getting or trying to get there? Since the Jets already hired Sparano as the OC.

ChiefsCountry · 01-11-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

What job is he getting or trying to get there? Since the Jets already hired Sparano as the OC.

I would assume the roles what they did in Dallas. Sparano ran the run offense and Haley ran the pass offense.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-11-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Knowing the Chiefs awesome luck, Haley will coach Sanchez into a superstar.

That would be fun to watch unfold here.

philfree · 01-11-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

What job is he getting or trying to get there? Since the Jets already hired Sparano as the OC.

He's going to be the WRs coach maybe. His job could be to coach S. Holmes.

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