Chiefs Pioli interview with Jack Harry. - Page 5

Coogs · 01-12-2012, 11:41 AM

Not that we didn't already know this, but there will be no Luck or RGIII come April...

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/spo...as-done-so-far

If this is a repost... I really don't care.

**notorious** · 01-12-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

His answer would be obvious, and would infuriate everyone.

"Cassel hasn't been a complete failure. He lead this team to a division title, made a pro bowl, and twice in his career has QBd teams to 10 wins in a season. That's not failure."

You'd be asking him to defend Cassel. And he'd run down Cassel's accomplishments.

True.

oldman · 01-12-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I think it's a total fantasy to think Pioli's going to trade up. That said, if he has an ounce of intelligence in his head ... no GM should ever openly admit they'd give up multiple first round picks for anyone. Why on earth would anyone ever admit to that? Even if you secretly wanted to pull a Herschel Walker... you wouldn't go out there blabbing it on the rooftops so all the other GMs could see it.
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I agree with you about not letting the rest of the NFL hear what we're thinking, that's just good business.
I also agree that part of FA is retaining your own talent. We've got 2 very big deals to make (Bowe and Carr) before too long. It's been stated that Bowe wants to have someone who can get him the ball on a cosistent basis, so I would image that that issue will be addressed before we get too far along with Bowe. I believe Pioli knows that Bowe won't stand for another year of Cassel.

Messier · 01-12-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Then Harry responds with the data:

Cassel has the lowest yards per attempt and second lowest completion percentage of any QB in the league the last 3 years.

I'm telling you, directly attacking Cassel will cause Pioli to defend him stronger.

Pioli responds: Jack, I know a lot of fans want a QB with the best stats, and the most yards and TDs, but all I care about is wins, and leadership. Matt is a leader, and he has won for us.

**BossChief** · 01-12-2012, 01:37 PM

It's crazy to know that Hack Harry is the ONLY KC media person that asks the real questions.

I wish he would have followed up in the quarterback questions a little more.

**kysirsoze** · 01-12-2012, 01:38 PM

Let's just say Pioli faps to a fathead of RGIII every morning, it wouldn't make much sense from a negotiating standpoint to come out and admit he would give multiple firsts for him. Why would he do that?

FTR, I don't think he'll trade up to get him, but even if he would it wouldn't change his answer to that question.

Titty Meat · 01-12-2012, 01:39 PM

I don't know what people expect Pioli to say. "Yeah Matt Cassel sucks" and "You know Jack if Griffin slides a bit i'm more than willing to trade these draft picks for Griffin". It's just like the safeties comment he made to King that people took and ran with. In the end it might have helped us land Berry.

Amnorix · 01-12-2012, 01:40 PM

In a surprising development, Scott Pioli met with this reporter and candidly expressed the team's disappointment at the development of presumed starting quarterback Matt Cassel and how the team desperately needs to move in a new direction to, as he said it, "save my ass from getting axed along with every coach, assistant coach and the waterboy come two or three years from now."

"Well," started Pioli, clearly looking for the right words before deciding to let it all hang out, "what can I say? He sucked. You saw it too. Everyone saw it. You think we're ****ing blind? It's not like we're thinking we're watching Joe Montana while the fans are watching Ryan Leaf for Chrissakes. We're ****ed with that guy. Captain Checkdown ain't gonna win shit in this league. I thought he'd get better, and he did, kind of, but without Moss, Welker and those guys, he can't cut it."

"So yeah, I mean, whaddya think? We need a new quarterback. HAVE to have one," he emphasized, stabbing his chubby finger in my direction. "Whatever it takes. Two firsts, three firsts, my left testicle, whatever. The NFL has our ass in a sling, our nuts in their hands, and they know it."

With that, tears starting to well in his eyes, he walked out.

^ apparently nothing short of this level of publicly stated commitment will satisfy Chiefs' fans that Pioli **might** be looking to upgrade at the QB position.

Messier · 01-12-2012, 01:41 PM

The best way to do it is to ask, what do you like about Cassel? He's not the QB with the strongest or most accurate arm in the league, maybe even on his own team. So what are the qualities you see in him?

He'll still give the "intangibles" argument, but he won't be on the defensive.

Micjones · 01-12-2012, 01:43 PM

I'm surprised fans are still hoping Pioli will break character and start divulging a bunch of inside information.

We won't know until April what he's going to do with the #1 pick.

Drafting Berry was an atypical Pioli move.
As was drafting Hudson in Round 2 last year.

Being unwilling to trade multiple #1's isn't the same thing as being unwilling to package picks from 1 draft to move up (though that might not do the trick). It's also possible that he drafts Tannehill or Foles. Time will tell.

FringeNC · 01-12-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

In a surprising development, Scott Pioli met with this reporter and candidly expressed the team's disappointment at the development of presumed starting quarterback Matt Cassel and how the team desperately needs to move in a new direction to, as he said it, "save my ass from getting axed along with every coach, assistant coach and the waterboy come two or three years from now."

"Well," started Pioli, clearly looking for the right words before deciding to let it all hang out, "what can I say? He sucked. You saw it too. Everyone saw it. You think we're ****ing blind? It's not like we're thinking we're watching Joe Montana while the fans are watching Ryan Leaf for Chrissakes. We're ****ed with that guy. Captain Checkdown ain't gonna win shit in this league. I thought he'd get better, and he did, kind of, but without Moss, Welker and those guys, he can't cut it."

"So yeah, I mean, whaddya think? We need a new quarterback. HAVE to have one," he emphasized, stabbing his chubby finger in my direction. "Whatever it takes. Two firsts, three firsts, my left testicle, whatever. The NFL has our ass in a sling, our nuts in their hands, and they know it."

With that, tears starting to well in his eyes, he walked out.

^ apparently nothing short of this level of publicly stated commitment will satisfy Chiefs' fans that Pioli **might** be looking to upgrade at the QB position.

Matt Cassel needs to be cut. It's simple. He's been the worst starting QB in the league over the last 3 years.

DaWolf · 01-12-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

He said he couldn't think of a player that he would trade multiple draft picks for.

And yet he encouraged his buddy Dimitrioff to do exactly that if he had targeted Julio Jones as the missing piece to Atlanta's puzzle and felt strongly about it.

After reading War Room, I think this: if the Chiefs scouts come to Pioli with a convincing argument that Player X is 100% across the board a player who has everything the team needs and is a player you win a championship with, and if they don't feel even close to strongly about any other player sitting there in their draft position, they will explore making that move.

Pioli knows also that tipping his hand at this point does nothing for him. If he starts talking wishy washy about Cassel and let's the world know that he's angling for a replacement, it gives team B more leverage when talking deal, and gives other teams a heads up as to who they may need to be wary of if they too are looking to trade up.

That said, I don't think Pioli makes this particular move to try and get RG3 because it's going to be really, really expensive and because I'm not sure how sold he is on guys who come from a spread offense, but I also wouldn't put it past us if the guy is somehow available and affordable to trade up and get, and they absolutely love the guy above everyone else...

Chief Roundup · 01-12-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Matt Cassel needs to be cut. It's simple. He's been the worst starting QB in the league over the last 3 years.

Since when did they start putting the WORST QB in the league in the Pro Bowl?

htismaqe · 01-12-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Since when did they start putting the WORST QB in the league in the Pro Bowl?

This is why we'll never get a good QB.

Chiefs fans don't have any idea what a good QB looks like.

Chief Roundup · 01-12-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This is why we'll never get a good QB.

Chiefs fans don't have any idea what a good QB looks like.

It doesn't matter what the fan sees or thinks he sees.
I don't like Cassel either. I want a different QB. But Cassel is not the worst in the league. He is definitely in the bottum part of the league though. People here think that because they watch him and not all the other 31 QB's in the league.

htismaqe · 01-12-2012, 02:34 PM

I have to agree with what Keitzman just said.

Pioli told Jack that he didn't come here for a quick fix. He didn't come here to "win 1 Super Bowl".

WHY THE **** NOT? We haven't won a PLAYOFF GAME in 18 ****ing years. Most of us would sell our firstborn into slavery for ONE Super Bowl win. Who the **** cares about 2 or 3 or 4. Just get ONE.

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01-12-2012, 01:37 PM	#64
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1605912	It's crazy to know that Hack Harry is the ONLY KC media person that asks the real questions. I wish he would have followed up in the quarterback questions a little more. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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01-12-2012, 01:38 PM	#65
kysirsoze SNAP THE ****ING BALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $216946	Let's just say Pioli faps to a fathead of RGIII every morning, it wouldn't make much sense from a negotiating standpoint to come out and admit he would give multiple firsts for him. Why would he do that? FTR, I don't think he'll trade up to get him, but even if he would it wouldn't change his answer to that question.
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01-12-2012, 01:39 PM	#66
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1022442	I don't know what people expect Pioli to say. "Yeah Matt Cassel sucks" and "You know Jack if Griffin slides a bit i'm more than willing to trade these draft picks for Griffin". It's just like the safeties comment he made to King that people took and ran with. In the end it might have helped us land Berry.
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01-12-2012, 01:40 PM	#67
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	In a surprising development, Scott Pioli met with this reporter and candidly expressed the team's disappointment at the development of presumed starting quarterback Matt Cassel and how the team desperately needs to move in a new direction to, as he said it, "save my ass from getting axed along with every coach, assistant coach and the waterboy come two or three years from now." "Well," started Pioli, clearly looking for the right words before deciding to let it all hang out, "what can I say? He sucked. You saw it too. Everyone saw it. You think we're **ing blind? It's not like we're thinking we're watching Joe Montana while the fans are watching Ryan Leaf for Chrissakes. We're ed with that guy. Captain Checkdown ain't gonna win shit in this league. I thought he'd get better, and he did, kind of, but without Moss, Welker and those guys, he can't cut it." "So yeah, I mean, whaddya think? We need a new quarterback. HAVE to have one," he emphasized, stabbing his chubby finger in my direction. "Whatever it takes. Two firsts, three firsts, my left testicle, whatever. The NFL has our ass in a sling, our nuts in their hands, and they know it." With that, tears starting to well in his eyes, he walked out. ^ apparently nothing short of this level of publicly stated commitment will satisfy Chiefs' fans that Pioli might** be looking to upgrade at the QB position. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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01-12-2012, 01:41 PM	#68
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	The best way to do it is to ask, what do you like about Cassel? He's not the QB with the strongest or most accurate arm in the league, maybe even on his own team. So what are the qualities you see in him? He'll still give the "intangibles" argument, but he won't be on the defensive.
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01-12-2012, 01:43 PM	#69
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	I'm surprised fans are still hoping Pioli will break character and start divulging a bunch of inside information. We won't know until April what he's going to do with the #1 pick. Drafting Berry was an atypical Pioli move. As was drafting Hudson in Round 2 last year. Being unwilling to trade multiple #1's isn't the same thing as being unwilling to package picks from 1 draft to move up (though that might not do the trick). It's also possible that he drafts Tannehill or Foles. Time will tell. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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01-12-2012, 02:34 PM	#75
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	I have to agree with what Keitzman just said. Pioli told Jack that he didn't come here for a quick fix. He didn't come here to "win 1 Super Bowl". WHY THE ** NOT? We haven't won a PLAYOFF GAME in 18 ing years. Most of us would sell our firstborn into slavery for ONE Super Bowl win. Who the ** cares about 2 or 3 or 4. Just get ONE.
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