Chiefs 2012 Offseason - Page 2

O.city · 06:21 PM

Well I'm an optimist, so I am gonna go on a little rant here and make a bold statement.

The 2012 offseason will be the best offseason the Chiefs have had under Pioli. This will be the one that permanently makes us contenders for a good couple years. Here is whats going down.

Stanzi will turn out to be the guy. I have been watching alot of his old tape, he has the tools. He's gonna beat out Cassel in a training camp battle.

The 3 ACL guys will come back full strength. By the time the season rolls around they will have had a full year to recover. They will be fine.

The d will get a playmaker back. Pioli will bring in Paul Soliai from Miami to play NT with Poe and Gordon. In the second round of the draft Hightower will fall to us.

The offense, now having their quarterback, gets its playmaker back. We draft Richardson in the first round giving us a great combo of backs. We pick up a RT in the third round. We bring in an all pro in Carl Nicks from New Orleans who can't afford to pay him. We can.

We draft depth on both sides of the ball and bring in some solid backup free agents.

We resign Carr and Bowe.

This young team has it's quarterback and grows together, becoming a power in the AFC.

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but Pioli's finally gonna get it right.

Discuss.

HMc · 01-13-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

What I have heard (and it's just rumor, so it's essentially baseless/worthless...) is that they actually gave him every opportunity to take the job during the latter half of the season. And that they were ultimately disappointed with his development in 2011.

But who knows. I'm surely not in the locker room.

This is an unpopular explanation since it suggests that the hope that people have attached to Stanzi is misplaced (and that the Chiefs are therefore no closer to having a QB than they've been in 20 years), but it is by far the most likely explanation. Far simpler and more plausible than the numerous conspiracy theories.

He didn't get on the field because he looked like dogshit, basically.

O.city · 01-13-2012, 06:47 PM

Sorry Frankie.

Meant this offseason makes us contenders for a long time. Pay no attention to the consistently part.

keg in kc · 01-13-2012, 06:47 PM

On the original topic, I really don't like the idea of drafting any RB in the first round. The lifespan for the position is too short. I want to look for a position that can field a cornerstone player for a decade, rather than one where you're a good bit less likely to see the player perform at all past his rookie contract.

My dream is and continues to be a first round quarterback that becomes the face of the franchise until the early to mid 2020s.

O.city · 01-13-2012, 06:48 PM

That may be true about Stanzi. However, I just think with him being a 5th rounder and having to offseason, it was determined that he wouldn't play a down this year unless there was no other way around it.

**007** · 01-13-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

If this is the case - and it may be - then why wasn't he playing during the season? I can't think of a greater potential opportunity handed to any quarterback. All he had to do was beat out Tyler Palko.

Or were you talking about next preseason rather than last preseason?

I wish people would stop and consider that maybe they had no intention of playing him during 2011 no matter what the cost. 2012 is when we will find out what the kid has.

HMc · 01-13-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

That may be true about Stanzi. However, I just think with him being a 5th rounder and having to offseason, it was determined that he wouldn't play a down this year unless there was no other way around it.

I think you mean "I'd like to think" rather than "I just think"

You're creating somewhat irrational fantasies to generate hope. It's fair enough.

Frankie · 01-13-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Sorry Frankie.

Meant this offseason makes us contenders for a long time. Pay no attention to the consistently part.

Thanks. Now I am freed up to read the rest.

HMc · 01-13-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I wish people would stop and consider that maybe they had no intention of playing him during 2011 no matter what the cost. 2012 is when we will find out what the kid has.

I think everyone has "considered" that. There are a number of explanations that plausibly answer the question "where was Stanzi". That is indeed one of them.

Another is that management thought he looked inferior to Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton.

**007** · 01-13-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HMc

I think everyone has "considered" that. There are a number of explanations that plausibly answer the question "where was Stanzi". That is indeed one of them.

Another is that management thought he looked inferior to Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton.

Of course that is another option. I just see too many people assuming he sucks because they didn't play him.

O.city · 01-13-2012, 06:56 PM

Well apparently HMc isn't a Stanzi fan.

I also feel Orton would be alright but I doubt he sticks around.

keg in kc · 01-13-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I wish people would stop and consider that maybe they had no intention of playing him during 2011 no matter what the cost. 2012 is when we will find out what the kid has.

I'm just passing on what I've heard. Sorry if it doesn't fit how you want things to be. It might not even be reality, as I mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Guru

Of course that is another option. I just see too many people assuming he sucks because they didn't play him.

We must be reading the board at different times or something. Most of the time when I'm reading the Planet seems like it's hq for the Ricky Stanzi fanclub. Which is fine, people are certainly entitled to their brand of faith.

O.city · 01-13-2012, 07:00 PM

I do remember seeeing someone say that the Chiefs were not impressed with Stanzi's progress

**007** · 01-13-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm just passing on what I've heard. Sorry if it doesn't fit how you want things to be. It might not even be reality, as I mentioned.We must be reading the board at different times or something. Most of the time when I'm reading the Planet seems like it's hq for the Ricky Stanzi fanclub. Which is fine, people are certainly entitled to their brand of faith.

I see more people saying "he obviously sucks" and hardly anyone truly wanting to see what he can do. I guess we must be on at two different times.

Also, It isn't "how I want it to be" as you say. People need to stop making assumption is all. We don't know if he truly sucks or if he is truly good.

HMc · 01-13-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Well apparently HMc isn't a Stanzi fan.

I also feel Orton would be alright but I doubt he sticks around.

wut?

I've never seen him play, nor met him. Why would I be fan or otherwise?

I'm attempting to analyse the situation using the little evidence we have available (facts).

I would love nothing more than to see this guy come out and make the spot his own in 2012.

But the facts are that the Chiefs elected to play Tyler Palko and a barely initiated Kyle Orton instead of this guy. Everything else is speculation.

O.city · 01-13-2012, 07:06 PM

Then by that reasoning, Hudson didn't unseat Lilja or Wiegmann because he wasn't any better or Gaither didn't start becasue Richardson was better?

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	2012 Offseason Well I'm an optimist, so I am gonna go on a little rant here and make a bold statement. The 2012 offseason will be the best offseason the Chiefs have had under Pioli. This will be the one that permanently makes us contenders for a good couple years. Here is whats going down. Stanzi will turn out to be the guy. I have been watching alot of his old tape, he has the tools. He's gonna beat out Cassel in a training camp battle. The 3 ACL guys will come back full strength. By the time the season rolls around they will have had a full year to recover. They will be fine. The d will get a playmaker back. Pioli will bring in Paul Soliai from Miami to play NT with Poe and Gordon. In the second round of the draft Hightower will fall to us. The offense, now having their quarterback, gets its playmaker back. We draft Richardson in the first round giving us a great combo of backs. We pick up a RT in the third round. We bring in an all pro in Carl Nicks from New Orleans who can't afford to pay him. We can. We draft depth on both sides of the ball and bring in some solid backup free agents. We resign Carr and Bowe. This young team has it's quarterback and grows together, becoming a power in the AFC. Sorry if this upsets anyone, but Pioli's finally gonna get it right. Discuss. Last edited by O.city; 01-13-2012 at 06:21 PM..
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01-13-2012, 06:47 PM	#17
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Sorry Frankie. Meant this offseason makes us contenders for a long time. Pay no attention to the consistently part.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	On the original topic, I really don't like the idea of drafting any RB in the first round. The lifespan for the position is too short. I want to look for a position that can field a cornerstone player for a decade, rather than one where you're a good bit less likely to see the player perform at all past his rookie contract. My dream is and continues to be a first round quarterback that becomes the face of the franchise until the early to mid 2020s.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	That may be true about Stanzi. However, I just think with him being a 5th rounder and having to offseason, it was determined that he wouldn't play a down this year unless there was no other way around it.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Well apparently HMc isn't a Stanzi fan. I also feel Orton would be alright but I doubt he sticks around.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	I do remember seeeing someone say that the Chiefs were not impressed with Stanzi's progress
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Then by that reasoning, Hudson didn't unseat Lilja or Wiegmann because he wasn't any better or Gaither didn't start becasue Richardson was better?
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