Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Secrecy, intimidation, fear and a watchful eye have become hallmarks of working for the Chiefs, say some current and former employees.

BY KENT BABB THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the team’s coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didn’t know who else might be listening.

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http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14...nover-off.html

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This article goes into a lot of detail on the changes that came into effect with the Pioli regime. Sounds like a shitty ass place to work now.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Good Luck getting a real OC to come here with all this crap going on.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by DRU

I find it funny that a journalist would waste his time on this sort of thing, and I find it even more funny that those few of you who read the article post the negative quotes and comments for the others to read, but leave out the positive or indifferent stuff that just as many people said.

For every negative quote in the article there's another one from somebody saying it's no big deal and it doesn't bother them. Both from people who are still there and those who aren't. One even talked about how the same fears and feelings were evident when Peterson took over years ago.

New management took over. Some people were let go, and some people weren't. It happens everywhere with business, large and small.

The candy wrapper thing is nothing, but you guys are acting like Pioli is the devil because of it. I've seen that example of proving the "attention to detail" point in lots of business management books and I've heard it used at business conferences as well. It's supposed to illustrate how an entire team of people work together to ensure that every small detail is handled within an organization. The point is that if so many people are walking by a piece of trash in their work place and nobody ever picks it up, what other "trash" are they seeing and doing nothing about? It's a simple concept and was most likely used to spark the conversation in the meeting.

This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.

Translation: I'm going to cover my eyes, and stick my fingers in my ears.

What whole thing is blown out of proportion?

The fact that the Chiefs produce a shit product, hold employees accountable, but the GM and the quarterback are held to a different standard?

[Mojo Jojo]

[QUOTE=tmax63;8297426 None of us here know where the Chiefs were or where they are going on that side of the house. [/QUOTE]
I do..Epic Fail to you...

[donkhater]

I agree with DRU. This is blown out of proportion. So he closes the blinds to practice. Maybe he thinks employees will be distracted by the team practicing and not on the task they should be doing. I know I would be. So he orders the blinds closed so people can focus.

The wrapper is a classic example of proving your point about attention to detail by making a big deal of a little detail. I doubt Pioli spends his days wandering around the offices looking for wrappers on the floor.

I do know this. Organizations can be tough enough to run without people not buying into what needs to be done. If the boss man wants things done a certain way, then that's it. Look at the team Herm left. Yes it had some talent but it was fat and lazy and the result showed on the field. When Haley started he wanted players to get in shape and focus. Those that resisted that, got sent the door, but it seems as if everyone on this board was ok with that. What's the difference?

[donkhater]

This team hasn't won playoff game in twenty years and people think its only because of the players and coaches we've had? The culture that is defined at the top of the leadership ladder trickles down to the product on the field. After 40+ years of not making it to the Super bowl, might it not be time to clean house a bit?

[Dragonocho]

Originally Posted by okcchief

No matter how much you love the Arrowhead experience on Sunday DO NOT renew your season tickets. That's the only way Clark Hunt will understand. Vote with your feet.

Done. Even stood strong through the very persuasive Mitch Holthus Robot call. Are there any humans at that franchise anymore?

My SKC STH Account manager has called me no less than 5 times in the year Livestrong has been open. That franchise is running circles around the Chiefs.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by Dragonocho

Done. Even stood strong through the very persuasive Mitch Holthus Robot call. Are there any humans at that franchise anymore?

My SKC STH Account manager has called me no less than 5 times in the year Livestrong has been open. That franchise is running circles around the Chiefs.

The absolute best thing that could happen for this franchise would be for the Hunt family to sell to a group of local business people who live in the city and care not only about WINNING football but the community.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Smed1065

You first if so dedicated. If not die for us. Bedsides . Not your field, idiot thought, or Just FU.

I actually feel sorry for you.

I'd tell you to kill yourself, but you've already probably tried that.

Maybe this year, you can work on complete sentences.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

caplannflAdam Caplan
@kentbabb's story on Haley and what supposedly went on when he was with the Chiefs is fascinating. I just RT'ed it you didn't see it.



Nice the National media is picking up on this.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by donkhater

This team hasn't won playoff game in twenty years and people think its only because of the players and coaches we've had? The culture that is defined at the top of the leadership ladder trickles down to the product on the field. After 40+ years of not making it to the Super bowl, might it not be time to clean house a bit?

We haven't won a playoff game in 20 years for many reasons. Some is due to the GM side, some on the coaching side, some is just bad luck, bad matchups, etc. For instance, if we'd have won the Raiders game, and won the division, I believe the the playoff winless streak would've ended this year.

What house cleaning are you suggesting? The only constant over the last 40 years is the Hunt family. Owners don't get fired, they sell the team, and that's not happening with Clark Hunt.

[beach tribe]

When half of the former staff is gone, the other half is going to be paranoid as **** that they are next, or pissed off and fueling this fire because they KNOW they are next.
Ray Farmer, who I see as a straight shooter, says it's over blown.
I'd be pissed too if some **** I'm paying to keep the place clean, went a full week without cleaning the stairwell.
When Herm&Carl ware here, everyone wanted someone to clean this sloppy mess up. Now that you have it, you still cry like bitches.

[donkhater]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

When half of the former staff is gone, the other half is going to be paranoid as **** that they are next, or pissed off and fueling this fire because they KNOW they are next.
Ray Farmer, who I see as a straight shooter, says it's over blown.
I'd be pissed too if some **** I'm paying to keep the place clean, went a full week without cleaning the stairwell.
When Herm&Carl ware here, everyone wanted someone to clean this sloppy mess up. Now that you have it, you still cry like bitches.

This

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Yup the wrong person was fired this year Pioli is a joke.

Dude, get off your ****ing Haley kick.

He's never getting another HC job. Ever.

[Messier]

This tells me Haley was paranoid. Pioli is just a micro-manager.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Translation: I'm going to cover my eyes, and stick my fingers in my ears.

What whole thing is blown out of proportion?

The fact that the Chiefs produce a shit product, hold employees accountable, but the GM and the quarterback are held to a different standard?

I'm going to get flamed, but Pioli has taken the talent that was here, and built a team that is a QB away from a long term SB window. If not for injuries, we win 10-11 games again.
Please tell me which QB we should have chosen. Mark Sanchez?
Seriously. I don't think Cassel gets another year with Romeo. I just don't.
I respect your opinion, and would really love to hear about the QBs that were available to us that you would have picked.